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    Columbus Railway King variety

    The 18 size 16j Railway King is DIETRICH GRUEN'S 1891 design for his best. Had a tough competitor with the 18 size 17j 1892 model the best from Waltham. Both designed for rr use and eventually had 23j. One sold for every 100+ Walthams? I consider (of course) my pre 1894 16j decorated version with choo-choo dial and sideways operating leverset the best example. Made while Gruen was boss. After 1894 Gruen was doing Gruens and the bankrupt Columbus was renamed New Columbus starting with serial numbers 500,000+ Until bought by Studebakers to form South Bend 1908?.
    Photos 16j. Rare 15j, 23J both not mine. Note 23j marked King. Hampden enforced their rights to Railway marking after Gruen left. He was friendly at nearby Dueber Hampden and bought most cases from them. Added my 18S Hampden of similar age with Railway name rights
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    Re: Columbus Railway King variety

    My but you have a lot of nice watches!

    Antiques Roadshow made a big fuss over a Columbus Railroad King once and, I thought, vastly overvalued it.
    "Forever is composed of nows." - Emily Dickinson

    "The watch has to be surrounded by a history.
    You need more than just a great design. You need to create an atmosphere around the product.
    Who is the company behind it? Why are they using this material?
    People need to be able to identify the watch with themselves. It's based on emotion." - Ralph Furter

    ...that's just my opinion and I've been wrong before and will be again and might be now!

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    Re: Columbus Railway King variety

    Quote Originally Posted by Eeeb View Post
    My but you have a lot of nice watches!

    Antiques Roadshow made a big fuss over a Columbus Railroad King once and, I thought, vastly overvalued it.
    The 15j example is not. Heard from its owner the center jewel was replaced.

    The roadshow one was probably one of the rare 17-25j late ones. $2000+ possible. The Kings shown below, not mine, were also marked Railway King. Very few.
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    Re: Columbus Railway King variety

    Just saw what is probably the first Gruen designed watch; first model very like the Railway King. Only visible difference is regulator adjusted at arm end like the old Hampden showed here. Not my photo is circa 1886 15j 73000. I used to have 102000 16j marked adjusted with gold decoration from about 1889 with same regulator.
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    Re: Columbus Railway King variety

    Very interesting to see these very early Columbus watches and I'm
    learning a lot about Gruens early history.....great read and pics ArtB.

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    Yes, I too am sitting here enjoying the material and not commenting. But I should. Keep'em coming

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