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    I received this watch from one uncle. It is a gold Helbros hand wind from West Germany still looks good and works great. Anyone know anything about it?

    I received this watch in the early 70's from another uncle. Doesn't work. It has an Ebauches Bettlach EB8800 movement in it with Swiss Watch Co. of America on it. The dial says Bolivia Presidential. Is this watch a keeper?



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    I like the cushion case, but must admit I've never seen a "one jewel" movement!
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    Helbros was originally a Swiss company founded just prior to World War I. Lately it seems to be a brand owned by an American company (like Invicta I suppose.) Your auto looks to me like late 1960s.
    The Bolivia looks like a pin lever watch - inexpensive movement, probably not worth fixing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pacifichrono View Post
    ..., but must admit I've never seen a "one jewel" movement!
    But they are existing:



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    Quote Originally Posted by Ray MacDonald View Post
    The Bolivia looks like a pin lever watch - inexpensive movement, probably not worth fixing.
    Seems to me I remember seeing the "Bolivia" watches being peddled by street vendors in the 60's.They tried to pass them off as,"Bulova" watches to unsuspecting people.There were several variations on the theme simulating what were expensive watches of the day.

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    Thanks for the responses

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    Hi Axel,

    Do you have any idea who made that one jewel movement? I have two 17 jewels date version of that movement. The watch brand is Fonda, and another is a DPRK watch!

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    Quote Originally Posted by soviet View Post
    Hi Axel,

    Do you have any idea who made that one jewel movement? I have two 17 jewels date version of that movement. The watch brand is Fonda, and another is a DPRK watch!

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    Quote Originally Posted by soviet View Post
    Hi Axel,

    Do you have any idea who made that one jewel movement? I have two 17 jewels date version of that movement. The watch brand is Fonda, and another is a DPRK watch!

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    Sorry no idea so far.
    Just can tell you that the watch is a Kienzle.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Axel66 View Post
    Sorry no idea so far.
    Just can tell you that the watch is a Kienzle.

    Cheers,

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    Kienzle? Interesting

    The used to make their own pin-lever movements with a 3/4-plate layout similar to Ruhla. Then Kienzles from the late 1970s seem to use the Ruhla calibre 24. Roland Ranfft lists some examples with Bettlach pin-lever calibres. But your watch has a Swiss pin-lever that isn't Bettlach, or Baumgartner, or Ronda. What is it?

    Can somebody help? Roland? Harmut? This question is starting to bug me.

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