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    Picture Coventry Watch Co

    I've just picked up this pocket watch and it was easy to find out the brand with "The complete price guide to watches".
    Case and movement are identical numbered.
    Also the silver marks were not difficult to find, they are Chester Assay marks.
    I have only a problem with dating, the watch could be from 1808 or 1830.
    Could somebody help me out with this, it would be much appriciated by me.





    Because I'm affraid to open the movement, could anybody tell me more about it?
    Thanks in advance!

    Cheers, Frans

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    Re: Coventry Watch Co

    The Coventry Cooperative Watch Manufacturing Society was established in the late 19th C and
    represent some of the last traditionaly made English watches. The hallmark on your
    watch is for 1895...nice find.

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    Re: Coventry Watch Co

    This is a going barrel watch - this corroborates Radger's dates.

    I get the feeling this one is small?

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    Re: Coventry Watch Co

    Thank you Radger, I see that the date tabel in the price guide isn't complete :(
    Googled for the Chester tabel English silver marks: marks and hallmarks of Chester sterling silver and you're right ;)
    I'll donate 5 pounds next week to get into the Coventry watch museum to find out a bit more of the Coventry watch history.

    Cheers, Frans

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    Re: Coventry Watch Co

    Hi Trim, thanks again for your reply it's much appriciated!
    I have to learn a lot about those old pocketwatches because it's a very different world than wristwatches I've noticed ;)
    You're right it's a small watch (40mm)
    Now I'll do a search for "going barrel watch" because I don't know what it means.

    Cheers, Frans

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    Re: Coventry Watch Co

    Hi Frans,

    A 'Going Barrel' is usually applied to English watches and simply
    means that the gear train is driven directly from the barrel which
    contains the mainspring.... ie the barrel has teeth cut into it and it is the
    'first wheel' in the train sometimes termed the 'Great Wheel'.

    Before the 'Going Barrel' English watches used a Fusee mechanism
    and the fusee cone was the 'first or great wheel', the fusee cone being
    driven directly from the barrel via a chain or in earlier mechanisms, by
    gut. The fusee being a device to give mechanical advantage to the spring
    as it winds down and so even out the torque.

    Your watch is a Full plate watch with gold solid balance and going barrel.
    It has seven jewels...this can be known because all English watches of this
    type have at least a jewelled escapement consisting of two pivot jewels to the
    balance, two endstones to the balance, a ruby pin to the roller and
    two pallet stones.

    This watch harks back to an earlier age than the hallmark suggests and it's
    no surprise that you thought it was much earlier. English watchmaking was in
    its death throes at this time and your watch is the Coventry watchmaker attempts
    to try and hold onto traditional English watchmaking and make it still viable in
    a world when cheap imports were becoming the norm.
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    Thanks a lot Radger for explaining

    I learn a lot by reading this text pieces from other collectors.

    For me personally collecting means also getting as much info I can get of the pieces I have.
    There is so much history behind the English watch industry and it's great to pick up some pieces from the net.

    About the Coventry Watch Company I've found this piece of text:

    A group of traditional watch-makers formed a Cooperative Society in 1876 (Coventry Cooperative Watch Manufacturing Society) in order to better cope with the Swiss and American competition. They used traditional hand-made watch manufacture methods and never adapted to machine made methods, so there watches were effectively the last of the hand-made watches from the midlands, thereby ending a centuries old dominance of the watch trade. Very few watches, possibly only 5-6 have been seen with the full company trade mark symbol to the movement and even fewer, 2-3 have this repeated to the silver case. There watches are very rare examples of a long defunct industry from a last effort by traditional craftsman to group together to survive. By ca. 1900 the company appeared to have ceased making watches or buying in ebauches to finish and sell.

    I have written a mail to the museum to ask if they have some info on this watch and I will buy the little books of history they sell.

    Thanks again for explaining!

    Frans

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    Re: Coventry Watch Co

    This is indeed a rare watch and I'm sure that the museum would be
    interested and be able to tell you a lot, let us know.

    Despite having viewed thousands of English levers, this is only the second one of these I've ever seen,
    the first was also on this forum and at the time nobody could suggest who the maker was, I only found out much later.

    After much searching I found that other watch...

    https://forums.watchuseek.com/f11/hel...ch-313434.html

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    Picture A few pics of the lovely case

    I've made a few pics of the lovely and very nice workmanship case.






    cheers, Frans

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    Re: A few pics of the lovely case

    Fabulous.
    Everybody is ignorant, only on different subjects."

    Will Rogers (1879 - 1935)


    Please don't PM me to ask for a valuation - I won't attempt one.

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