Curious about the movement in this "Reland" watch
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    Curious about the movement in this "Reland" watch

    Interested in folks' opinions of the 17j movement in this Reland watch.



    I never heard of this brand, and neither has Google, which thinks I just misspelled Ireland. No big deal... I know there are many great Swiss brands that disappeared in the quartz crisis.

    I'm more curious about whether this watch has a legit pallet fork movement or a pin lever. The seller has a LOT of "Rare Sicura Breitlings" on eBay, which are merely cheap pin pallet watches. Makes me question their honesty/integrity.

    Unlike the sheet metal appearance of most pin lever movements, this one has a bit of decoration on it, but it's not exactly Geneva striping.

    Also, the casebook boasts of the "antimagnetic" "shockprotected" properties, which I have seen used along with "17 jewels" to deceptively market pin lever watches. But this dial does say "Incabloc."



    I do think the dial is fantastic looking, assuming it is not a redial and the hands are original.
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    Re: Curious about the movement in this "Reland" watch

    AS 1800-series movement possibly? Can you read any numbers under the balance wheel?

    bidfun-db Archive: Watch Movements: AS 1800 (Standard 1800)
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    Re: Curious about the movement in this "Reland" watch

    Wow, that sure looks a lot like the AS 1800, right down to the engraving on the bridge plate and that gear that looks like an old reel-to-reel tape. Thank you for reassuring me that this isn't a pin lever movement.

    When I zoom in on the balance wheel, I think I see something ending in "150/51"
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    Re: Curious about the movement in this "Reland" watch

    Quote Originally Posted by DC guy View Post
    When I zoom in on the balance wheel, I think I see something ending in "150/51"
    I'm not sure what that signifies, perhaps someone else will know.
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    Re: Curious about the movement in this "Reland" watch

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    Re: Curious about the movement in this "Reland" watch

    Ah yes, now I see it as "1950/51"

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    Re: Curious about the movement in this "Reland" watch

    Quote Originally Posted by DC guy View Post
    Ah yes, now I see it as "1950/51"
    Good, because it's hard to distinguish amongst this family of movements (AS 1800/1940/1950) just from a photo, since they differ mainly in size and beat rate. Since it has the date function, it will be the AS 1951.
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    Re: Curious about the movement in this "Reland" watch

    Just for your future reference; there are definitely some pin-lever movements that are shock-protected and contain 17 or more functional jewels and are marked as such without any deception. There is nothing illegitimate about such watches although they are not the quality level that is of interest to you.

    However using the Breitling name to sell vintage Sicura watches definitely is deceptive.
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    Re: Curious about the movement in this "Reland" watch

    Hi there,

    Quote Originally Posted by Chascomm View Post
    ...using the Breitling name to sell vintage Sicura watches definitely is deceptive.
    More offending against Sicura than deceptive: At some point Sicura was reasonably more successful than Breitling, and could buy Breitling from their petty cash.

    Regards, Roland Ranfft
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