I was looking at buying a "vintage HMT Jawan military" watch on ebay as they seem very cheap. Most go for around a tenner so you can't go wrong. But then I see that there are some going for 60 or 70 quid! Why such a huge difference??
Anyway, browsing through this forum I found some tips about the 100s of fakes being produced, but can't find any definitive answers or history on these watches. But from one of the threads on here I see that the military arrow on the case back should be cast or stamped when the case back was being manufactured. So I spent over an hour browsing the adds on ebay from the vintage Indian watch shops and they are all clearly engraved. And some very badly so!! (The ones for 60/70 quid seem to be real- hence the cost??)
But they all claim to be 100% genuine vintage "vintage HMT Jawan military watches". So I decided to question one of the online shops, and here is the response:
Is this is a vintage HMTbut re-dialed and made to look like a military Jawan model? The arrow on the case back is clearly engraved which wouldn't have been the case on the real military issue? I don't mind buying a replica but would like to know for sure rather than buying something that it is not.
Response from shop:
Yes , The military mark on the back was engraved in India because HMT is a Indian made watch .
Me pushing some more:
Thank you for your reply. As far as I can find on the web the military mark should be cast into the case back during manufacture rather than engraved? So is this a replica military watch based on an antique HMT watch?
Response from shop:
We get watches from an Authorized distributor of HMT in India .
So may be what you said is true .
So this "vintage watch shop/ dealer" are now saying that they haven't a clue of watches (or being not commital to them mass converting other vintage HMTs to military versions!). This particular shop have loads of watches for sale and about 20 vintage military ones, all fakes from what I can tell. Should I report them to ebay? This shop is one of many from what I can see, so would I be just picking on this one?.....