Does Monagrams and engraved names harm value?

View Poll Results: Do you find personal engraving on pocket watches to:

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  • Enhance Value?

    6 12.50%
  • Decrease Value?

    20 41.67%
  • Make it more enjoyable?

    17 35.42%
  • Make you drop it like it bit ya?

    2 4.17%
  • Make you want to buy it because of the engraving?

    4 8.33%
  • Make no difference?

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    Do Monograms and engraved names harm value?

    Just discussing this with my wife the other day. Do you find that a name engraved inside the watch hurts the value, or do you find that it enhances your enjoyment of the piece?
    What about when the case has a great big engraved initial in it?
    I myself dont mind the outside engraving. I dont really like it, but its the watches' history. I could take it or leave it.
    The inside engraving I love. I think if there were 2 identical watches on a table, and 1 had a name in it, that would be the one to go home for me. Just adds interest to it I guess.
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    Re: Does Monagrams and engraved names harm value?

    Not if your name is Ringo Starr, Buddy Holly or some other notable celeb who has stood the test of time, if you'll forgive the bad pun.

    Some collectors avoid inscriptions, particularly corny protestations of undying love, but I actually like a watch that has an inscsription that embeds the watch's purchase history.

    Depending on the watch and the demand for it, I guess there is a price discount on many engraved watches.

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    Re: Does Monagrams and engraved names harm value?

    Also, almost nobody ever engraves a fake. And for some obscure watches the inscription can be a valuable tool to determine exact age...

    I agree with the 'celebrity' bit too...I missed buying a lovely Hamilton inscribed to "Bing Crosby from his friends at Pebble Beach" a few years ago...for a golf and watch fanatic that's worth a heck of a premium.
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    Re: Does Monagrams and engraved names harm value?

    Inscriptions make the watch more enjoyable to me, but less enjoyable for enough people that it decreases it's value (ie resale value)

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    Re: Does Monagrams and engraved names harm value?

    Engraving lowers a watch's value. No doubt about it. As you say it can add to its personal appeal for you, but in general it doesn't float many collector boats.
    It's always useful in identification if it contains a date of some sort. But that is about it.

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    Re: Does Monagrams and engraved names harm value?

    Hi -

    Actually, there is a thriving business out of the Ukraine for watches engraved as memorabilia from the German National Socialist Party, complete with swastika etc.

    They're almost all fakes, as that party virtually never gave away engraved watches, preferring such pseudomilitaria as fancy daggers that folks back then could wear with their uniforms.

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    Re: Does Monagrams and engraved names harm value?

    I keep looking for one with my initials, but no joy. Yet.

    Other than that, I'll pass, celeb or no.

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    Re: Does Monagrams and engraved names harm value?

    I don't mind engraving at all, in fact if it has a date I positively prefer it.

    Adds history to a vintage watch IMO.

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    Re: Does Monagrams and engraved names harm value?

    I actually like them especially with a date or if the former owner can be googled. Here's one I picked up last year of actor James Gregory. He was a character actor for many years acting with many of the biggest Hollywood stars like John Wayne, Tony Curtis, Charles Bronson, and Gregory Peck. He's probably best known for his Barney Miller TV series appearances (in the hat in the pic) but played in many first rate films like Manchurian Candidate, etc. He received a lot of popularity for his role in an ape suit in Return to the Planet of the Apes. Pretty interesting. Anyway, the watch came from his estate sale and was presented to him after his first acting job. I've also collected some autographed pictures of Gregory and some DVDs of movies he appeared in. The actual Elgin watch dates to 1928 according to the serial number.

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    Re: Does Monagrams and engraved names harm value?

    I recently bought my first Omega off ebay. I know there are a lot of fakes and frankens about, but this one has a '25 years loyal service' engraving. Now, given that engravings tend to lower value, and that a company buying a presentation watch in the 1960's would get it from a high street jeweller's, the presence of the engraving made me feel very confident that the watch was genuine. Fraudsters are very unlikely to engrave a watch with mundane inscriptions.

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