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    Drug Dealer Estate Sale

    OK, its a long story to type but today I picked over a chest of around 150 watches.......most were just junk or broken but I did find some gems and I need some help with the age of some of them. The ones I picked all work except the Vulcain which is the only one that I picked that did not work. I know I have seen the name on this forum so I snagged it just in case. I usually deal in watches of this age but I usually dont deal in Timex, Waltham and rarely in Hamilton.

    About the title of the thread: I was in my local watchmaker who had a customer telling him how his brother was murdered and had left him a huge pile of watches...when he asked where he could sell them, I raised my hand, took a chance and $35 later I have the ones you see below. Its a strange tale but true!! LOL

    This is the one I really need help with. I only know the name from WUS. I dont need a $ value but I would like to know how old it is (I cant get the back off yet but I will try) and if it is worth restoring or just selling. I see now it is a Cricket (I wiped it off and changed to a better picture)

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    The others are still filthy, and I just wiped them off and set them and all but the tired old Timex on the upper right are running and keeping time so far.
    The Hamilton is a SS self winding.
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    The Waltham is also SS but is an automatic and so is the funky Timex to its left.

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    And this one is easy since I buy and sell 10 a month.....a 74 6309
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    The little gold Timex is self winding.
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    Thank you in advance for the info and opinions offered.....especially on The Vulcain. Oh and also not pictured is a 77 Caravelle Dual Date Set-O-Matic that worked perfectly with a thrashed case but I needed the movement for another watch....Ray is already moving to my other case.
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    Re: Drug Dealer Estate Sale

    That's a Vulcain Cricket, most likely from the 1950s or early 1960s. It's a wrist alarm, rather sought after in good, clean, working condition.

    Unfortunately, the way your's looks it may have met with some water ingress - I don't think the movement looks much cleaner than the dial, so have it assessed by a pro who will tell you if and what can be done and at what cost. Note that spares are getting rare for those crickets.

    The only other watch I'd have picked (honestly) is the Seiko 5 with the "blinds" dial. That one seems to need just som tlc and a nicer strap to become a sure beater again

    Sorry to be the bringer of bad news but then, at 35 quid you've at least not been ripped off

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    Of the Vulcain I can't say much except that it's probably a Vulcain 401 Cricket Calendar movement- sub-second, alarm, date. Manufactured 1958-1963.
    bidfun-db Archive: Watch Movements: Vulcain 401 Cricket Calendar
    As to some of the other watches...
    The Seiko 5 is probably a mid to late 1980s model- there should be a serial on the caseback. The quartz Wenger... Wenger, as far as I know, belongs to Victorinox. 1990s, by the looks of it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mkws View Post
    Of the Vulcain I can't say much except that it's probably a Vulcain 401 Cricket Calendar movement- sub-second, alarm, date. Manufactured 1958-1963.
    bidfun-db Archive: Watch Movements: Vulcain 401 Cricket Calendar
    As to some of the other watches...
    The Seiko 5 is probably a mid to late 1980s model- there should be a serial on the caseback. The quartz Wenger... Wenger, as far as I know, belongs to Victorinox. 1990s, by the looks of it.
    The Seiko is a 74 I believe but could be an 84 with the 6309 movement? I put a green band on the Wenger and it will be a quartz beater for me to wear. And thanks~!
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    Here they all are after 30 minutes more of running. All are spot on so far. The tiny difference is just because I set them in a hurry and was not very precise.

    I am always amazed how the cruddiest of old watches run sometimes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bodyblue View Post
    The Seiko is a 74 I believe but could be an 84 with the 6309 movement? I put a green band on the Wenger and it will be a quartz beater for me to wear. And thanks~!
    You're welcome :) I don't think it's a 6309- I own a Seiko 5 from 1983, with the 6309 movement, with the crown at 4 o'clock. Yours has the crown at 3. On the other hand, I am not certain of this theory- the movement number should be somewhere to the right of the hour marker at 6. If it has the day wheel in two languages, it might as well be a 6309...
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    Quote Originally Posted by mkws View Post
    You're welcome :) I don't think it's a 6309- I own a Seiko 5 from 1983, with the 6309 movement, with the crown at 4 o'clock. Yours has the crown at 3. On the other hand, I am not certain of this theory- the movement number should be somewhere to the right of the hour marker at 6. If it has the day wheel in two languages, it might as well be a 6309...
    Its a 6309-8920. I buy and sell a lot of Seiko 5s but sometimes units like this one can be kind of tricky to date.

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    I just happened to get another Russian Mil band from Ukraine today so it was perfect for the Wenger. This is my second quartz beater on a RM band and I love them.

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    In the case of my Seiko 5, I didn't really need to date it... My grandfather bought it while working for a subcontractor of Siemens, on a project of modernization of electric installations in Baghdad in 1983. He actually bought two- one for himself, one for my father. The serial number confirmed that the watch was bought the year it was made.
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    After I got the Hamilton cleaned up (came out really nice) I found a cherry red very thin leather band (the watch is super slim) and VOILA! Instant St Valentine's day present for the watch loving wife!

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