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    E.HEUER Trench watch??

    I meant trench watch, don't seem to be able to edit the title.

    Any help on this would be appreciated. I have not been able to find any info on it or find any others like it. My hope is that it is original. I believe it to be a Heuer from the late 1910's to early 20's. The last image although hard to read is the same E.HEUER inscription as in the case cover. To my knowledge no dial markings is appropriate for this period with Heuer.Name:  IMG_0445.JPG
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    Re: E.HEUER Tranch watch??

    I see no evidence whatsoever this is a Heuer beyond the added stamping on the inside caseback. Heuer marked its dials and movements.
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    Re: E.HEUER Tranch watch??

    I think the stamping under the balance is pretty clear. Although of course there are no guarantees against fakery.

    Can you please supply the diameter of the movement, I would like to see if I can ID it.

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    Re: E.HEUER Tranch watch??

    Quote Originally Posted by Eeeb View Post
    I see no evidence whatsoever this is a Heuer beyond the added stamping on the inside caseback. Heuer marked its dials and movements.
    Based on my readings, I understood Heuer to sign his dials only starting in the 20's or so.

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    Re: E.HEUER Tranch watch??

    One other marking on the movement is 15JLS-3ADJ

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    Re: E.HEUER Tranch watch??

    I learn all the time. So I could be incorrect but... Their first wristwatch was in 1914 and was a direct pocket watch conversion with the crown at 12 between the wires of one of the lugs. "E.Heuer & Co." was the normal early marking not "E.Heuer Swiss". And I have never seen Heuers marked under the balance wheel. They have always been marked on the bridging.

    Heuer was an assembler and marketer, not a manufacturer. It was not until TAGHeuer that they started making their own movements so almost any movement could have been used. That makes them 'easy' to fake. They did indeed make some watches with radium dials such as is pictured, but these are generic dials and many used them. All of the examples I have seen were marked Swiss on the dial even if the Heuer logo was missing as Heuer was making a big drive to export to the US then.

    I see such fakes all too frequently on eBay. I've stopped reporting them. This smells like one to me. But the TAGHeuer Forum has some experts that don't show up here. Feel free to post it there and see what others say.
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    Re: E.HEUER Tranch watch??

    Quote Originally Posted by Eeeb View Post
    All of the examples I have seen were marked Swiss on the dial even if the Heuer logo was missing as Heuer was making a big drive to export to the US then.
    Hi Eeeb... the dial is marked Swiss - above the 12!

    Not to say you are wrong about the originality of the watch.... just thought I would point that out!

    Quote Originally Posted by Norm01 View Post
    One other marking on the movement is 15JLS-3ADJ
    15 Jewels (jewel count) and 3 Adjusted (adjusted to 3 positions)....

    Sorry... cant help on the movement ID...
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    Re: E.HEUER Tranch watch??

    Quote Originally Posted by Sparcster View Post
    Hi Eeeb... the dial is marked Swiss - above the 12!
    Your trench-eye has got (or gotten if you are American) better it would seem! Well-spotted.
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    Re: E.HEUER Tranch watch??

    Quote Originally Posted by Marrick View Post
    Your trench-eye has got (or gotten if you are American) better it would seem! Well-spotted.
    True... but also wanted to say the movement looked familiar.... didnt want to go down that road again.....
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