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    Question ECO Watch

    I need some help identifying this watch.
    The movement has a distinguished arrow on the regulator.
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    Re: ECO Watch

    Can't find anything about ECO.

    The case is, of course, Swiss. MGBM = 'Manufacture Genevoise de Boites de Montres' = Geneva Watch Case Co.

    http://www.mikrolisk.de/show.php/280/letter_M
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    Re: ECO Watch

    Typical early 20th century Swiss movement. Any markings under the balance?

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    Re: ECO Watch

    There are no markings uner the ballance but there is a FEF stamp under the dial.
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    Re: ECO Watch

    That looks like Fleurier 40 series (not sure which) based on the keyless works.
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    Re: ECO Watch

    Thank you everyone with your input.
    I just got my Pritchard's Swiss Timepiecemakers book back and I looked up ECO in there.
    According to Pritchards ECO was a company name used by Frey & Co. Montres Freco.
    Would they use a movement from the Fleurier Watch Company? I would have thought that the they produced their own movements.
    Thanks for your help.
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    Kurt

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    Re: ECO Watch

    Relatively few watchmakers, then and now, use their own movements. For most, the development costs are too high - if they started that practice, their watches would automatically become more expensive. The alternative would be to churn them out in their hundreds of thousands to minimize development costs per unit sold (e.g. Junghans in former days, or Rolex). Just because it's generic, it doesn't have to be worse, just a little more boring - the modern ETA movements are damn hard to beat for sheer quality!

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    Re: ECO Watch

    Quote Originally Posted by Hartmut Richter View Post
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    Just because it's generic, it doesn't have to be worse, just a little more boring - the modern ETA movements are damn hard to beat for sheer quality!

    Hartmut Richter
    Indeed (my opinion only!), the ETA 2892-A2 is the finest wristwatch movement ever made. Their specifications require each and every one to meet chronometer standards, even if the buyer did not buy the serial numbered chronometer grade version. All three of mine have no problem exceeding the COSC chronometer standard (only one is a certified chronometer).

    So don't poo poo non-internally manufactured movements. When doing make or buy analysis, 'buy' is usually better than 'make' for most vendors.
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    Re: ECO Watch

    Quote Originally Posted by Eeeb View Post
    Indeed (my opinion only!), the ETA 2892-A2 is the finest wristwatch movement ever made. Their specifications require each and every one to meet chronometer standards, even if the buyer did not buy the serial numbered chronometer grade version. All three of mine have no problem exceeding the COSC chronometer standard (only one is a certified chronometer).

    So don't poo poo non-internally manufactured movements. When doing make or buy analysis, 'buy' is usually better than 'make' for most vendors.
    My most recent watch has an ETA 2824-2. The balance wheel shows that it is one of the lower grade ("Standard" or "Elabore") rather than the higher grade ("Top" or "Chronometre") movements. The thing runs fairly steady at +3 to +4 seconds a day with so far a maximum deviation between lowest and highest daily rates of only 7.5 seconds! And that over several months!! When you look at the month to month average, you can halve that. Well within COSC specifications!

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