Elgin and Bulova identification

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    Elgin and Bulova identification

    Any help identifying these would be appreciated.

    Below is the Bulova. I will see about getting a picture of the movement.



    Below is a picture of the movement from the Elgin watch, not the Bulova from above:
    Last edited by watchmtnman; April 23rd, 2010 at 15:25.

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    Re: Elgin and Bulova identification

    A marriage of a mid-range swiss movment from the mid 60's and a dial from a bulova (possibly fake or "enhanced")
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    The first one is the Bulova


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    Re: Elgin and Bulova identification

    I'm not so sure the movement is a real Elgin. Look at the spelling of "UNADJUSTED." Plus, I couldn't find record of an Elgin "845" movement on Ranfft or Google.
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    Re: Elgin and Bulova identification

    My dad says he was given the Elgin by his father in the early 50s , but he thinks it was purchased a few years earlier.

    The Bulova he believes he bought in the early 70s.

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    Re: Elgin and Bulova identification

    The Bulova will have a date code on the case back or on the movement. I don't know what the graphic on the front represents.

    The Elgin is from the period after they sold the name and no longer used American made movements. One indication of that is the lack of serial number which I beleive ALL the American made ones had. My Bestfit book lists an Elgin 845 = H Beck 1151
    Here's some info about the H Beck 1151
    http://www.ranfft.de/cgi-bin/bidfun-...&2uswk&HB_1151

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    Re: Elgin and Bulova identification

    I believe there was a period in the 60's when the Elgin company went the "import" route (a la Benrus, and even Waltham before they closed shop) and simply cased the watches. They maintained their model identification system, but that's about it. It's still an "Elgin" in the sense that it was sold by the same Elgin company, it just wasn't made in america anymore.
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    Re: Elgin and Bulova identification

    A quick look at the dial will tell if it's from after Elgin closed up and sold the name. The later Elgins have an E that looks like the Euro symbol. Elgin did import many Swiss and French products both as complete watches and movements. If it says Lord Elgin then it's definately from the later period. If it's an Elgin Sportsman it's from the earlier period.

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    Re: Elgin and Bulova identification

    The dial says "Bulova"; what does tell you?
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    Re: Elgin and Bulova identification

    I can not get the case open on the Bulova. I did find a number on the back of the case though: 1-419696 or l-419696; I can't tell if it is a lower case L .The case back also reads Ambassador.


    Here is the face of the Elgin.





    Thanks for all the help!
    Last edited by watchmtnman; April 23rd, 2010 at 23:07.

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