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    Re: Is this a fake or real Girard Perregaux?

    It appears this watch comes from South America, presumably Argentina or Uruguay where those GP watches seem to have more current market than the time they were actually made.
    To begin with the movement, that's all legit and in pretty good shape but it stops pretty much there. The case is certainly not the common size for the era and the hallmarks are not Swiss, suggesting it did not leave the factory in Switzerland together with the movement. That however, is still common as import taxes on precious metals led to local case production in many countries. But I would check with a jeweler if it is indeed 18K as hallmarked. The dial is a redial done pretty decently and the crown is clearly a newer replacement. You can certainly call this a GP although pretty 'worked on' GP.

    As for the automatic wind caliber discussions - The 17 vs 39 jewels - These were both available from GP ..and from BENRUS under two jewel settiong options.
    They even shared the same 'logo' for the 39 jewels (!).

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    Re: Is this a fake or real Girard Perregaux?

    Quote Originally Posted by Hartmut Richter View Post
    Not the way I read the information in Ranfft. He states quite clearly that the Cal. GP 42.4 - which only comes as an automatic - can have 17 or 39 jewels.

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    True, but he's also stated several times in the forums that the information on his pages simply reflects the information available to him (usually in the form of watches in hand). So it means that there definitely were 17 and 39 jewels. It doesn't mean there weren't other configurations.
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    Re: Is this a fake or real Girard Perregaux?

    Early automatics often only had 17 jewels. It is not that uncommon.
    "Forever is composed of nows." - Emily Dickinson

    "The watch has to be surrounded by a history.
    You need more than just a great design. You need to create an atmosphere around the product.
    Who is the company behind it? Why are they using this material?
    People need to be able to identify the watch with themselves. It's based on emotion." - Ralph Furter

    ...that's just my opinion and I've been wrong before and will be again and might be now!

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    Re: Is this a fake or real Girard Perregaux?

    Interesting.

    I didn't think that was very clearly stated at all.

    But I could be wrong.

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    Re: Is this a fake or real Girard Perregaux?

    Hello,

    any idea if this is a fake?

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    Re: Is this a fake or real Girard Perregaux?

    I hope you didn't pay too much for it...

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    Re: Is this a fake or real Girard Perregaux?

    It was given to me, so I did not buy it.
    I don't know a thing about watches sadly!
    But I suppose you answered my question lol!

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    Re: Is this a fake or real Girard Perregaux?

    The two different spellings of Girard/Grard is a real give away
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    "Forever is composed of nows." - Emily Dickinson

    "The watch has to be surrounded by a history.
    You need more than just a great design. You need to create an atmosphere around the product.
    Who is the company behind it? Why are they using this material?
    People need to be able to identify the watch with themselves. It's based on emotion." - Ralph Furter

    ...that's just my opinion and I've been wrong before and will be again and might be now!

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    Re: Is this a fake or real Girard Perregaux?

    And "PERREGAGX" on the dial.
    Going to the trouble of making a quite handsome watch, then these stupid spelling errors?
    The quality controller ought to be taken out, stood up against the grammatical brick wall he couldn't get over, and shot.
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    Re: Is this a fake or real Girard Perregaux?

    I once read that this is the sort of thing that happens when chinese fakers, not used to western script, try to copy western product signatures.

    In short: not even remotely close to the real thing.

    Hartmut Richter

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