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    Feeling a bit rectangular...need help with ID though.

    I am looking at 2 different watches at the moment and dont know if they are something I want to go for or not.

    The first one I can ID the case maker as John Weir but can't make out the other case marks or ID the movement. The 2nd I have a company name but cant find any ref to them.

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    Busga W Co?

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    Re: Feeling a bit rectangular...need help with ID though.

    Hi BUSGA is tradename for Buess & Gagnebin - La Chaux de Fonds

    Other trade names JONA and OLMA
    Company listed 1922
    1923 adverts for BUGSA watch Co.
    Still listed in 1925, 1951 and 1966

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    PS: I like the first watch with 'exploding dial' (exagerated numbers)

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    Feeling a bit rectangular...need help with ID though.

    I'm not the one to help much
    On ID - the dial with exploding numerals is quite nice, I assume it's fairly small ? But aren't the fonts in the last pic extremely funky to say the least ? Uneven and inconsistent heights....unless it's engraved by hand ? S


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    Re: Feeling a bit rectangular...need help with ID though.

    Quote Originally Posted by Sdasurrey View Post
    I'm not the one to help much
    On ID - the dial with exploding numerals is quite nice, I assume it's fairly small ? But aren't the fonts in the last pic extremely funky to say the least ? Uneven and inconsistent heights....unless it's engraved by hand ? S


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    I was thinking the same thing but they also reminded me of some of the engraving you see on some older Movado watches.

    This is the dial on the Bugsa.....

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    Re: Feeling a bit rectangular...need help with ID though.

    Quote Originally Posted by HOROLOGIST007 View Post
    Hi BUSGA is tradename for Buess & Gagnebin - La Chaux de Fonds

    Other trade names JONA and OLMA
    Company listed 1922
    1923 adverts for BUGSA watch Co.
    Still listed in 1925, 1951 and 1966

    Mens and ladies wristwatches
    ACKNOWLEDGEMENTS: Kathleen Pritchard - Swiss TimePiece Makers.

    PS: I like the first watch with 'exploding dial' (exagerated numbers)

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    Thanks for that!!

    I am liking that one more too having a rather good case maker and a good quality, not great but good, movement. Needs some work but I like a challenge. Not sure of the dial on the other being original.

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    Feeling a bit rectangular...need help with ID though.

    I would say number 1 then - whether it's a re-dial or not somehow the dial on the Bugsa looks 'off-scale' between the overall size, the spacing of the numerals on the dial relative to the total dial proportions and the size of the hands...but overall I'm a sucker personally for exploding numerals if you remember my 'omega fiasco'..so I generally like these era/type of watches.....



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    Re: Feeling a bit rectangular...need help with ID though.

    I am dipping a toe in so I am going with lesser or unknown to get a feel for liking them or not. I do remember the "Omega" situation. Your lesson taught me one too. :)
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    Re: Feeling a bit rectangular...need help with ID though.

    I agree, number 1 is number 1!

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    Re: Feeling a bit rectangular...need help with ID though.

    T - here's a slightly different style of rectangular for comparison I have considered buying, but haven't .....Not 'exploding' but Longines, original dial and an interesting size plus the red '12'...S




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    'Survival kit contents check. In them you'll find: one forty-five caliber automatic; two boxes of ammunition; four days' concentrated emergency rations; one drug issue containing antibiotics, morphine, vitamin pills, pep pills, sleeping pills, tranquilizer pills; one miniature combination Russian phrase book and Bible; one hundred dollars in rubles; one hundred dollars in gold; nine packs of chewing gum; one issue of prophylactics; three lipsticks; three pair of nylon stockings. Shoot, a fella' could have a pretty good weekend in Vegas with all that stuff.' -- Slim Pickens as Major T.J. 'King' Kong, Dr. Strangelove 1964

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    Re: Feeling a bit rectangular...need help with ID though.

    Still no thoughts on movement?

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