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    Free Masons Pocket Watch

    A friend of mine has had this pocket watch for a while but doesn't know much about it. It had four symbols on the dial that we're particularly interested in. They seem to be symbols of the Masons. Anyone know anything about them or what they might mean?


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    I can tell you that there is the typical master mason square and compass on it, as well as a knights templar symbol on the left and the one on the right is a shriner symbol. The name is probably master mason and then his name. Not sure what the symbol on the bottom is.

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    Re: Free Masons Pocket Watch

    Quote Originally Posted by Zac no K View Post
    A friend of mine has had this pocket watch for a while but doesn't know much about it. It had four symbols on the dial that we're particularly interested in. They seem to be symbols of the Masons. Anyone know anything about them or what they might mean?





    The square and set of compasses with the letter "G" in the centre is the "logo" of the Freemasons. The square, to square our actions; The compasses, to circumscribe and keep us within bounds with all mankind.
    The "G" has different meanings it could be for God, or the Grand Architect (also meaning God), or Geometry.

    The Keystone (in the subseconds) is the symbol of the Mark Master Mason.

    The Sword, Crescent and Star is a symbol of The Mystic Shrine (Shriners).

    The Cross and Crown is the symbol of the Knight Templar degree of the York Rite of Freemasonry.

    The only M.M. McAllister I can find in the US was from Bee County, Texas, circa 1907.

    It looks like: "Am Watch Co." behind the square and compasses.

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    Re: Free Masons Pocket Watch

    It's a high-quality Waltham movement from around 1889 with a double-sunk enamal dial that someone has subsequently applied decals or stamps to (as opposed to having been "built" that way). The watch would have been rather expensive at the time, so I'd guess that mason symbols were applied later (possible to commemorate some personal milestone within the Masons?). The main point is that I wouldn't assume the symbols are as old as the watch itself. We can already see that the shrine symbol is fading a bit.
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    What a waste of a nice watch. Can that crap be cleaned off?
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    Re: Free Masons Pocket Watch

    Quote Originally Posted by laikrodukas View Post
    What a waste of a nice watch. Can that crap be cleaned off?
    There was probably a good reason these were added. They are probably part of someones history that was also commemorated with a nice pocket watch. I think it gives a little character.
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    Re: Free Masons Pocket Watch

    Quote Originally Posted by bsshog40 View Post
    There was probably a good reason these were added. They are probably part of someones history that was also commemorated with a nice pocket watch. I think it gives a little character.


    And a little value.
    Watches with Freemasonry markings fetch a small premium, and can bring high prices sometimes, depending on make/model/condition.

    The former owner of this watch held quite a high position in his Lodge/Temple, as he was a Mark Master Mason.

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    Re: Free Masons Pocket Watch

    Personal I guess the added value is a problem. It's impossible for a buyer to decide if this is a part of the watch live or if its a good hancraft and someone added some value within the last years. Unfortunately a lot of these mansonc waches were born within the last 20 years. Of course they excit and they was build by watchmakers for a customer in former times. Even orginal watchmovements styled with mansonic symbols bridges excit.
    Personal for me this is a very nice waltham but for the symbols a assignable historical backgriund is nessesary. Good luck for the decryption and assignment to a person/maker.

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