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    Gallet & Co. crosscheck of possible fakes/ frankens

    Sadly enough, the world of "imaginative" restorations/ frankenstein/ marriage watches/ outright forgeries have come to light. With the resurgence in the last couple of years due to the buzz around their newest publicly-released watch, the Gallet Racing Heritage chronograph.

    We've seen some pretty crummy attempts at people trying to pass off 'shaggy dogs' as the real thing.
    I must thank forum user TucayJordan for this idea, it is apparently time.



    So, let's add to this thread for all questions regarding the authenticity of Gallet watches.
    My intent is not to call out people for posting something for sale, because it's quite probable that the current owner does not know the history of the piece, or it was simply worked on by unqualified people and the owner does not have the specific knowledge to determine good from bad. Yes, there are people that are actually trying to defraud potential buyers, but the idea of this thread is to help a buyer to make the best purchase possible.

    I have a very solid knowledge of Gallet's history and their watches, but I'm certainly not the only Gallet aficionado here. I welcome the help of anyone that has information on the piece in question.

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    Re: Gallet & Co. crosscheck of possible fakes/ frankens

    The first posting, a definite shaggy dog.


    Sent in by a forum user a couple day ago.
    While I've not seen the movement yet, I don't need to. This is an outright fake, as it is nothing that Gallet ever produced. Probably a pocket watch caliber tossed into a new case, and a poorly done dial. Were they trying to invoke a pilot's watch theme here? Might be a decent timepiece, but it's certainly not a Gallet.
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    Re: Gallet & Co. crosscheck of possible fakes/ frankens

    This one is from my collection. I purchased this probably 7 years ago. While this is an original Marathon/ Gallet case, and movement, the dial has been altered. When Gallet entered into the contract with Marathon to supply these watches, exactly (10) sample pieces were sent for evaluation. These had Desert Shield on the dial. This was immediately nixxed, because at that time, it was not public knowledge that the operation name was to be Desert Shield.
    The ADANAC/ Marathon/ Navigator was removed and reprinted. The second tell for this being a franken is that the person that made these used a too-big crown. The original crown barely sticks out from the protecting ears.




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    Re: Gallet & Co. crosscheck of possible fakes/ frankens

    Another Marathon Navigator, this one somebody decided to put a mechanical movement into a quartz case. While I admire the ingenuity it took to do this, it's still a frankenstein watch. Notice this also has the Desert Storm logo on the dial.





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    Re: Gallet & Co. crosscheck of possible fakes/ frankens

    What do You know, An open heart case :D
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    That opening makes regulating the watch very convenient.
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    Re: Gallet & Co. crosscheck of possible fakes/ frankens

    OK, Can I play ?

    This Gallet watch was sold on ebay recently for what looks like half it's possible value ?
    Would anyone care to comment ?
    BTW it has nothing to do with me (as a buyer or vendor ) - just interested in your comments

    https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Vintage-1...p2047675.l2557
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    Re: Gallet & Co. crosscheck of possible fakes/ frankens

    Quote Originally Posted by kazrich View Post
    OK, Can I play ?

    This Gallet watch was sold on ebay recently for what looks like half it's possible value ?
    Would anyone care to comment ?
    BTW it has nothing to do with me (as a buyer or vendor ) - just interested in your comments

    https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Vintage-1...p2047675.l2557
    I think this price is plenty high for a PVD-coated (with brassing) 1970s style Valjoux 7750. I also wonder if it is missing its bracelet.
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    Re: Gallet & Co. crosscheck of possible fakes/ frankens

    Gallet made these for the US Gov, I believe for pilots/ USAF. The contract was similar to the nylon-cased navigators, but they wanted a chronograph. So to keep costs down, Gallet created these cases from brass, and PVD coated them. The R7750 was one of the older 17 jewel calibers, but still plenty of watch for it's intended use. I've got one of these in my collection, but mine has the original band. It's a multi-link stainless case made for Gallet that was also PVD coated to match the case.

    Even though this is not generally a sought-after piece, that $900 was more than I'd expect this chrono to go for. Here's mine:

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    Quote Originally Posted by kazrich View Post
    OK, Can I play ?

    This Gallet watch was sold on ebay recently for what looks like half it's possible value ?
    Would anyone care to comment ?
    BTW it has nothing to do with me (as a buyer or vendor ) - just interested in your comments
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    Re: Gallet & Co. crosscheck of possible fakes/ frankens

    Here's one that I came across several years ago. This one has something fishy about it...



    I have my doubts that this is a Gallet at all, other than the dial. It does have a Poljot 3133 caliber, which Gallet did use for one watch back in the 70's. It certainly looks like somebody cut out the date window with a screwdriver.
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