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    Golana pocket watch

    Hello everyone, i am new to the forum.
    The reason i came here is my old Golana Turkish railroad pocket watch.
    In order to get some aditional info i contacted the manufacturer but never got their response.
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    As You can see the watch is not exactly in mint condition, it works but runs a little late.
    So here is what i am interested in finding out:
    Can someone tell me how would i polish the casing and remove patina (if it is even recommendable)?
    Maybe someone would also know what year is it made?
    And how much is it worth in it´s current condition (i saw the same watch but in mint condition for sale on the internet, it was almost 800$)?

    Thank You in advance!
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    Re: Golana pocket watch

    I'm not sure how you can say it was the "same watch" you saw on the internet, if all we're going by is the dial and case. Pocket watch dials, as a general rule, all look roughly the same, and cases tended to be designed independent of the watch movement (and again, all tend to look the same). The inscription on the caseback tells us that we're dealing with a standard 17 jewel swiss lever, and that's about it. The combination of that and the case design suggests early 20th century. I believe (although I'm not a train person) that the train pictured is a Russian 4-8-0 M Class locomotive, which were built starting around 1920.

    But the key to understanding what value your watch might have will largely be a function of the movement inside. We can't give values here, but if you can open up the dust cover (the part with the medals on it) we can give you some details that'll help you research a more realistic value.
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    Re: Golana pocket watch

    Ok, thank You.
    I will try to open it, but can i damage something inside while trying to do so?

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    Re: Golana pocket watch

    Depends on what you're using to open it, I guess. If you look around the edge of the dust cover, there will usually be a small lip or recessed spaced near the top. Often you can use work your fingernail under it to pop it open with no fears. Watchmakers use what's called a bench knife; a thin, short but not sharp with a pronounced curve that is gently pushed into the opening to lever up the case (note...lever, don't twist). Just be gentle, so that you don't end up shoving the knife into the guts of the watch.
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    Re: Golana pocket watch

    This train looks pretty close, actually: Steam Locomotive Information
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    Re: Golana pocket watch

    Thank You very much.
    When it is done, i will post a photo of movement.

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    Re: Golana pocket watch

    Here is the photo of a watch movement:
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    Re: Golana pocket watch

    Good quality movement, possibly a Unitas 6498. These movements were frequently used
    by Cortebert in the manufacture of Turkish RR watches IIRC.
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    Re: Golana pocket watch

    Thank You radger for the info.

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    Re: Golana pocket watch

    Definitely a Unitas and very likely a 6497. All other Unitas calibres with that bridge arrangement are too small (13''' or less). It could even be an ETA 6497 which is the same thing made by ETA now that they have gulped up Unitas (plus everyone else in the Ebauches SA).

    bidfun-db Archiv: Uhrwerke: Unitas 6497

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