Gotham ladies watch... is it gold?

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    Gotham ladies watch... is it gold?

    This weekends nice fine MAY be a solid gold ladies watch. I really can't tell for sure, but it certainly looks like it is. I picked up this cool looking watch for $5 taking a chance that it may be solid gold... here is the before pic:

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    Here is a pic of the inside back and the marking on the side of the case:

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    There are no wear marks anywhere on the watch that would lead me to believe it is gold filled or plated but I am still not 100% sure it it solid gold. Any thoughts would be welcome.

    One thing I learned by working on these tiny ladies watches over the years is that there are many companies that used the same movement. With that in mind, I looked through a shoe box I have that has over 300 of tiny cocktail watches and found 5 or 6 that I could scavenge a dial off of. I didn't have a Gotham dial so I replaced the dial with this cool looking Peninno dial. For now it will work fine, as I try to decide if I should get the Gotham dial repainted. BTW, when swapping dials, I usually swap out the hands that go with it. If I get the Gotham dial repainted, I'll put the Gotham hands back on too.

    Here is the finished pic.. for now. :)

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    Cheers,
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    Re: Gotham ladies watch... is it gold?

    I must say that the "14Kt" is a little, ehrm, let me say: "Hand made". As if applied after the watch was produced. Is it particularly heavy for its size?

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    Re: Gotham ladies watch... is it gold?

    Hi Hartmut, I just think it looks worn, being placed in a bad spot (where someone would need to use a knife to open the case. Don't you think that even the inside Gotham logo looks kind of hand made? It is also curious that the serial/case number is double struck... BTW, the case weighs 0.25 ozt (troy ounce weight). Not sure if that is heavy or not.

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    Re: Gotham ladies watch... is it gold?

    Holy timekeeping, Batgirl.
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    Re: Gotham ladies watch... is it gold?

    Difficult to know about the case weight - the best thing is to compare it with some similar ones that you know aren't gold. At the same time, the "14Kt" is definitely a little exposed and may just be worn - but then, the side of the case is also a little bit of a funny place for it. Mostly, these indications are on the case back.

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    Re: Gotham ladies watch... is it gold?

    Found this ad posted here by Marrick (second watch on the left):

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    close up of that watch;
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    Now what? lol

    Another interesting thing is that the Peninno watch (the watch I scavenged the dial off of) is also from 1948. I found a drawing of it on the Internet.

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    Re: Gotham ladies watch... is it gold?

    That one has 8 rubies. Initially I thought that it was an unusual jewel count for a watch of that time - but it obviously refers to the external jewels. It also looks like yellow gold to me.

    Your jewels are blue - so may be sapphires. I think you've bought well - but it might be interesting to get a jeweller to give an opinion.

    BTW someone is selling an original of that ad on ebay Vtg 1948~Ad~ Gotham Fine Gold Silver Diamond Watches~ if you're interested.
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    Re: Gotham ladies watch... is it gold?

    ...that is the ad I got the insert pic from... :) Just noticed they have a watch called "Ronald". I'm gonna take a guess that $125 in 1948 dollars was a lot so probably gold.

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    Re: Gotham ladies watch... is it gold?

    A lot of money indeed:

    Measuring Worth - Measures of worth, inflation rates, relative value, worth of a dollar, purchase power

    In 2011, the relative worth of $125.00 from 1948 is:

    $1,170.00 using the Consumer Price Index
    $976.00 using the GDP deflator
    $1,960.00 using the unskilled wage
    $2,380.00 using the Production Worker Compensation
    $3,290.00 using the nominal GDP per capita
    $7,010.00 using the relative share of GDP
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