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    GP Movement identification

    Hi all of you out there....
    I need help to identify a Ladys watch movement.

    It's a Girard Perregaux, with the following engraving on the movement:

    Girard-Perregaux
    5829471
    17 Jewels Seventeen
    Swiss
    Unadjusted

    On the balance bridge, the letters GXM are engraved (Girard Peregaux manufacturer code).

    On the inner side of the back cover the following is engraved:

    GP
    14K GOLD
    A logo which contains a D letter with a smaller B letter in it.
    2068
    1707


    I hope all the above will help you help me

    Thanks in advance, Saul.
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    Re: GP Movement identification

    Before GP started to develop their own movements they used Adolf Schild and ETA movements. You can try searching here. If you use the advanced search you will be able to get a match if not a perfect match.
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    Re: GP Movement identification

    Thanks very much Emmanuel,

    I did go to that site but couldn't find a close match.
    I revisited the site with emphasis on ETA and AS, still no good match.
    I need to get the keyless cover for that one but before I go to Jules Borel site, I need to know the caliber.

    Thanks,

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    Re: GP Movement identification

    Quote Originally Posted by tallsaul View Post
    Thanks very much Emmanuel,

    I did go to that site but couldn't find a close match.
    I revisited the site with emphasis on ETA and AS, still no good match.
    I need to get the keyless cover for that one but before I go to Jules Borel site, I need to know the caliber.

    Thanks,

    Saul.
    You can send an E-mail to Dr. Ranfft with a picture of the movement. He would more then likely be able to identify it for you.
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    Re: GP Movement identification

    They also used quite a few FEF movements.
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    Re: GP Movement identification

    Quote Originally Posted by Marrick View Post
    They also used quite a few FEF movements.
    I didn't know that. Thanks for the information Marrick.
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    Re: GP Movement identification

    All features considerd (particularly the two bridge holding screws either side of the winding stem, also the precise shape of the keyless works), I'd go fo a Peseux Cal. 340:

    bidfun-db Peseux_340: Peseux 340

    Not an exact match, but pretty close.....

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    Re: GP Movement identification

    Quote Originally Posted by emmanuelgoldstein View Post
    I didn't know that. Thanks for the information Marrick.
    I didn't know really, but I sometimes cheat in Ranfft's pink pages. If you enter, for example, 'girard' in the search box, a list of movements that Roland has annotated as Girard-Perregaux comes up.

    e.g: for FEF 6621:

    Example, year: signature; shock device
    ca. 1980: 504-424, Girard-Perregaux, Swiss, 17 Jewels; Kif-Ultraflex
    (Girard-Perregaux 504, FEF 6631)

    and quite a few FEFs that were similar (but not identical) to the movement in question came up.
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    Re: GP Movement identification

    Quote Originally Posted by Marrick View Post
    ... If you enter, for example, 'girard' in the search box, a list of movements that Roland has annotated as Girard-Perregaux comes up...
    Yet another example showing your searching skills are amazing. Good idea.
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    Re: GP Movement identification

    Hi Saul,

    the number 5829471 consists of a calibre number (58), a version number (29) and
    a batch number (471).. So you should order the settig lever spring for a GP 58.29,

    No need to search in the movement archive - it is still missing.

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