Gruen stepped side autowind on the way!

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    Gruen stepped side autowind on the way!

    Since no one seems to be posting this weekend, I'll post this gold filled Gruen with a cal. 480 autowind movement I scored a few days ago on the Bay. I'm anxious to get it this week. These are the seller's photos.



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    Re: Gruen stepped side autowind on the way!

    Yet another beauty!
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    Please don't PM me to ask for a valuation - I won't attempt one.

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    Re: Gruen stepped side autowind on the way!

    I never realized Gruen made automatics... any idea on the production date? Is it Swiss in origin?
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    Re: Gruen stepped side autowind on the way!

    Thats one very nice looking watch, hope it arrives quickly.Regards Steve

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    Re: Gruen stepped side autowind on the way!

    Quote Originally Posted by Eeeb View Post
    I never realized Gruen made automatics... any idea on the production date? Is it Swiss in origin?
    Sure, Gruen made automatics. Although Gruen was an American company it had extensive production facilities in Swizerland. Since the turn of the twentieth century Gruen manufactured all their movements in Switzerland while other production , i.e., casing, timing, etc. was done in the U.S.

    pacifichrono's Gruen with the 480 movement is probably from the 1950s.

    Here are a two more examples of Gruen automatics:

    A bumper automatic caliber 460 SS from the late 1940s.





    A rotor automatic caliber 731 from the late 1960s:








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    Re: Gruen stepped side autowind on the way!

    "autowind" - interesting. Gruen has an interesting history. I really hadn't read much on it after the Gruen's left Columbus other than knowing Gruen went to Switzerland where he trained their 'cheap labor' to work with US mechanized technology.

    I wonder when Gruen as a brand started using the Swiss made label? The first autowind is not so labeled and the second is.
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    Re: Gruen stepped side autowind on the way!

    Quote Originally Posted by Eeeb View Post
    I wonder when Gruen as a brand started using the Swiss made label? The first autowind is not so labeled and the second is.
    The second automatic watch with the 731 movement dates to after 1958 when Gruen Watch making was sold to new owners marking the end of the original ownership. The company was moved out of Cincinnati (Time Hill closed) to New York and by the time that this watch was made production was probably completely done in Switzerland. The new ownership continued producing watches until 1976 when it too went bankrupt.

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    Re: Gruen stepped side autowind on the way!

    Hi -

    JimH filled in some of the gaps, but actually Gruen was one of the first US makers in Switzerland and almost all of their movements starting with the VeriThin pocket movements were made there. They were one of the founders of Aigler and took a wrong turn where Rolex took the right turn, i.e. when the family got out of active management, management ran the company right into the ground.

    The "Swiss Made" was a legal requirement that developed well into the 1950s.

    Until just a few years ago, Rolex had their administrative offices in the physical plant where Gruen made its watches.

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    Re: Gruen stepped side autowind on the way!

    Hi -

    You continue to excel in finding these... :_)

    Lovely.

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