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    gubelin "scouts" cronometre

    hi all i just wanted to share some (poorly taken) pictures of my "gubelin watch. And ask if anyone has any information about it at all. I was able to find a company history at http://www.designerjewelrybrands.com/gubelin.php

    and the company's website at http://www.guebelin.ch but that's all i could find when i was looking.

    as you can see from the pictures it's a stainless steel watch with a silver face, silver applied markers, and silver hands.

    it has manual wind movement marked

    Gubelin G 7016

    twenty-one
    21 jewels

    swiss 195398

    adjusted 5
    five positions

    adjuested to temperature


    on the inside of the case back it says

    gubelin
    swiss

    acier
    inoxydable
    195398

    it's actually much nicer than my pictures look :D i need photography lessons
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    Re: gubelin "scouts" cronometre

    a better picture of the face.
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    Re: gubelin "scouts" cronometre

    I think that the movement is a refined version of the FHF/ST 96. A lot of the age cues I look for indicate late 50's, but being adjusted for temperature suggests, 10 yrs earlier

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    Re: gubelin "scouts" cronometre

    thanks for the reply,

    if i may ask, why does the temperature adjusted marking suggest late 1940's?

    also,since this watch predates the cosc, what does the cronometre designation mean? doing well/ winning an observatory trial or something totally different?

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    Re: gubelin "scouts" cronometre

    Quote Originally Posted by Kungfucowboy View Post
    thanks for the reply,

    if i may ask, why does the temperature adjusted marking suggest late 1940's?

    also,since this watch predates the cosc, what does the chronometer designation mean? doing well/ winning an observatory trial or something totally different?
    New alloys made temperature compensation less important. This article explains it http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nivarox. By the 50's you stop seeing references to temperature compensation. I know that there were observatories that certified watches prior to the COSC. In fact one of the driving forces for the foundation of the COSC, was that the observatories stopped certifying chronometers, with the advent of quartz technologies.

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    Re: gubelin "scouts" cronometre

    The movement is an Adolf Schild Cal. AS 1441:

    http://www.ranfft.de/cgi-bin/bidfun-...&2uswk&AS_1441

    As for the use of the term "Chronometer" before ca. 1950, I have heard (but cannot vouch for it!) that a watch had a right to be designated "Chronometer" if a movement of that exact type had been certified as a chronometer. After 1950, the exact movement in the watch with the designation had to be certified. Anyone with more definite information is most welcome to chip in!

    Hartmut Richter

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    Re: gubelin "scouts" cronometre

    Hi there,

    the style of the dial, and the more the screwless balance indicate that
    the watch was made in the 60s. Up to the late 50s AS movements
    (and most other quality movements) still came with screw balance.
    High grade movements even longer, simply because it looks more expensive.

    Moreover most manufacturers only engraved serial numbers, when the were
    necessary for identifing a certified movement. So I suspect it is really a COSC
    chronometer.

    Regards, Roland Ranfft

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