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    Guess the maker of this movement.

    Yesterday I dismantled my pivoted detent Swiss chronometer.

    This watch with gold dial has obviously been recased at sometime
    into a steel case and to accommodate this it has been converted
    from pin set to lever set. It has a split compensated balance,
    a helical hairspring and gold and platinum screws.
    I would say that the movement dates to the late Victorian, about
    1880/90.

    I've had this watch a while now and it's been at the end of a
    long queue for a service.
    I found a few issues which need to be sorted..a cracked endstone
    on lower balance, a cracked pivot jewel on balance cock and the
    lever on the setting mechanism is a sloppy fit and needed sorting.

    Fortunately I have the correct jewels to replace the endstone and
    pivot jewel which are of the type which are rubbed into their settings
    and the setting lever I tightened by letting down the shoulder on its
    screw.
    Also the Maltese cross has been removed from the stopwork on
    the barrel. This is fairly common as these can be troubelsome and
    I know that some watchmakers removed these as a matter of course
    regarding them as an unnecessary refinement and the cause of more
    trouble than advantages.
    This type of stopwork limited the mainspring to be wound four complete
    turns, if I have the parts to restore this stopwork I will but I'm
    not to fussed as the watch is far from original anyways.
    Nevertheless, this is an interesting watch and despite being in a later
    case is well worth the care I shall lavish on it.

    The movement and the dial are unsigned and I expected to find a clue to
    the maker on the dial side...alas no only the serial number but on
    removing the barrel bridge I was surprised to find the maker had signed
    the watch underneath.

    Who can guess the maker of this watch?
    Clue...it is a maker that everyone here has heard of and some will
    have watches with this makers movements inside... you'll be surprised,
    I was.
    These pics are of the watch pre service (filthy) as it is now in pieces.




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    Re: Guess the maker of this movement.

    Nice watch! As for ID...?! Well, the dial and hands scream "Breguet" so that would be my initial guess. However, you say "Swiss" so that may not fit (unless you mean Swiss in the modern sense since the company is now in the Swatch Group).

    Hartmut Richter
    Last edited by Hartmut Richter; April 3rd, 2010 at 14:12.

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    Re: Guess the maker of this movement.

    Ok, it is Swiss and the movement goes into other peoples' cases and it is well known.
    Possibly an early Omega but they don't make for others.
    Not elaborate enough for JLC and the separate cocks suggest Longines but they don't furnish other manufacturers either.

    So it is a maker that we would regard as middle or lower tier?

    Lanco?

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    Re: Guess the maker of this movement.

    Radger,
    this is really a beauty!
    my brain is going nuts,
    I have the feeling I know it but just can't point it...

    regards,
    RJ van Melle

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    Re: Guess the maker of this movement.

    Hi -

    Girard-Perregaux chronometer, pivoted detent, gold train, 20 jewels, ca 1878.



    Do I get to keep it?


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    Re: Guess the maker of this movement.

    Good guesses but all incorrect.

    Hartmut, I looked the maker up and they are definately Swiss.

    Tom Shep...great guess with Lanco but wrong.

    RMelle...You will have worked on movements from this maker,
    you'll be surprised, I was.

    Jon F..that G.P sounds like a great watch, did they make
    A pivoted detent?...they didn't make this one but good guess.
    Last edited by radger; April 4th, 2010 at 02:41.

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    Re: Guess the maker of this movement.

    Audemars

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    Re: Guess the maker of this movement.

    Happy Easter Radger!
    I once saw a 1880's Sandoz......
    the bridge alignment looked very much the same
    But it is NO Sandoz.....

    regards,
    RJ van Melle

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    Re: Guess the maker of this movement.

    Could it be Cortébert?

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    Re: Guess the maker of this movement.

    VC is my guess... they are known to have only marked on the dial side.
    "Forever is composed of nows." - Emily Dickinson

    "The watch has to be surrounded by a history.
    You need more than just a great design. You need to create an atmosphere around the product.
    Who is the company behind it? Why are they using this material?
    People need to be able to identify the watch with themselves. It's based on emotion." - Ralph Furter

    ...that's just my opinion and I've been wrong before and will be again and might be now!

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