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    Guess That Movement 1940s

    Just had a offer accepted for a silver military style watch watch.

    The midland looks to be added, From the top of my head there was a swiss importer who branded his watches midland, but don't think it was this late.
    but then the only reason I went for it was I was born in the Midlands UK. So works out for me.

    No movement pictures as he said he could not open the back.. So a bit of a lucky dip..

    ???could not copy the photos..
    Item Number on the bay. 391056765798

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    There's a couple of "Midland" trademarks registered out of New York: R. Gsell& Co. Inc and Mount Vernon Watch Co. And from what I can tell, they're the same company, somehow. There's a "Mt. Vernon" tradmark that was issued to R. Gsell & Co. in 1935, the same year that "Mt. Vernon" was also registered to "Mount Vernon Watch Co.". USPTO shows a 1964 registration to Mount Vernon Watch Co with no assignments listed. R. Gsell only shows up in USPTO with a single registration (for "Gsell", oddly enough), in 1966. They sold that to Elgin National Industries in the 80's. Which means both companies were active around the time this watch was created (which was likely the late 40's to mid 50's.) Very odd, that.

    Given the time frame, there should be a import stamp on the balance that may tell us more.
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    That is interesting... I would not of guessed there was a possibility of being imported across the pond. I think the import stamp for them is bxj, so I shall look when I get it... If it is then I hope it's no later than 1952, as in 1953 they imported a lot of pin lever movements.

    I was thinking of the Midland lever pocket watches for some reason.
    Thankyou for your input..

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    Re: Guess That Movement 1940s

    Found this dial/movement that is from the same company r gsell & co.



    Anyone know the movement..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pj.....o5 View Post
    Just had a offer accepted for a silver military style watch watch.

    The midland looks to be added, From the top of my head there was a swiss importer who branded his watches midland, but don't think it was this late.
    but then the only reason I went for it was I was born in the Midlands UK. So works out for me.

    No movement pictures as he said he could not open the back.. So a bit of a lucky dip..

    ???could not copy the photos..
    Item Number on the bay. 391056765798


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    Re: Guess That Movement 1940s

    No movement code on the balance? Or can I just not make it out? The name on the movement has to refer to either the importer or the manufacturer. "Olympic Watch Co" was a Swiss "Company"...the quotes are because it was probably just an export company that ordered movements from another company. Although there does appear to be a custom caliber marking (picture is too fuzzy to make it out), so it might have been an actual finisher. Either way, "Olympic" would have been their house brand given that it was also the name of their company. Not to say that R. Gsell didn't import it (and own the trademark in America), but it would have been under arrangement with the Swiss company.

    The movement looks to be from the AS1000 family: bidfun-db Archive: Watch Movements: AS 1002
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