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    Question Hamilton Chronomatic Pan Europe

    Hi all, having joined your company yesterday I would like to ask a question of any Hamilton enthusiasts. I have recently acquired one of these which I'm told dates to 1971. The helpful staff at Hamilton were able to tell me that it has the calibre 11 microrotor automatic movement which I believe is also found in the first automatic autavias and Breitlings of the same era. It was apparently sold for $275 when new. They were unable however to tell me the significance of the '703' number on the dial seen under the 'pan europe' script. Does anyone know the significance of this number?
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    Re: Hamilton Chronomatic Pan Europe

    Thanks for posting. Unfortunately there is far less information available on the Swiss made Hamiltons made at the end of Hamilton's existence.
    My guess is that 703 might be some sort of model number but I don't know. Caliber 11 movements are very collectible as far as I know.

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    Re: Hamilton Chronomatic Pan Europe

    Can't comment on the 703, I'm afraid. Hamilton got the rights to the use of that movements because they bought up Buren and the Buren microrotor movement provided the base for the chronograph mechanism. This was developed by Dubois-Depraz and Breitling and Heuer-Leonidas (later TAG Heuer) provided the cash. The whole thing was narrowly pipped to the post for the title of "World's first automatic chronograph movement" by the Zenith Cal. 3019 PHC/PHF - which is why that is called the "El Primero".

    A very nice watch in excellent condition. Tragically, unlike in the case of the El Primero and the Valjoux 7750, when they intended to trash the remaining movements and the machinery on which it was made in the quartz crisis years, they actually DID trash everything! So, no more are made and will be made so that yours is probably a little more collectible than earlier El Primeros or Valjoux 7750 chronographs.

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    Re: Hamilton Chronomatic Pan Europe

    The Heuer Autavias still command a pretty penny, probably more than yours would command even though, to me, they look to be almost the same watch. As I get to know things a little better I see some patterns. The same movement and essentially the same case can command a dramatically different price depending on the name on the dial. I picked up a Heuer Lemania 5100, made by Heuer, the Heuer model number on the back. But because the dial read Tourneau it went relatively cheap. (Tourneau, like Bucherer, is a jewelry chain that private labels watches.)

    From what I can see, your Hamilton looks to be in excellent condition. I am only just getting into chronographs but I would think it a good catch.
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    Re: Hamilton Chronomatic Pan Europe

    Thanks very much for the comments guys. The watch is basically as new with the protective plastic on the case back. The comparison with the autavia is interesting as I was looking for one when I came across this. I haven't seen an autavia in the metal but the case and the fluted pushers on this watch look to be identical to those of the calibre 11 autavias I've seen in photos. I have a picture of the movement taken at the time of sale which you might be interested in.
    Still curious about the 703 though.

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    Re: Hamilton Chronomatic Pan Europe

    Anyone see a resemblance???

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    Re: Hamilton Chronomatic Pan Europe

    Well, they are both 2 dial chronographs.... after that they begin to differ. They are clearly not the same movements.
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    Re: Hamilton Chronomatic Pan Europe

    Quote Originally Posted by Eeeb View Post
    They are clearly not the same movements.
    That is for sure! The Okeah is equipped with the Poljot 3133 (nee Valjoux 7733/7734). I was wondering more about the outside appearance than the movement.
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    Re: Hamilton Chronomatic Pan Europe

    There were a lot of folks who made 2 dial chronos... a substantial number were fairly colorful. I can recall some Tissots and Heuers that looked like this. There are currently a few colorful 2 dials on the bay. I guess the balance of 2 subdials brings out the colorful artist in face designers.
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    People need to be able to identify the watch with themselves. It's based on emotion." - Ralph Furter

    ...that's just my opinion and I've been wrong before and will be again and might be now!

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    Re: Hamilton Chronomatic Pan Europe

    Quote Originally Posted by Eeeb View Post
    There were a lot of folks who made 2 dial chronos... a substantial number were fairly colorful. I can recall some Tissots and Heuers that looked like this. There are currently a few colorful 2 dials on the bay. I guess the balance of 2 subdials brings out the colorful artist in face designers.
    Here's my Seastar, needs a glass and pusher cap See my relevant post.
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