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    Help cyma, waltham and milwaukee

    Hi, i need your expert opinion guys on these three watches. Please tell me about the value and year. If you know if one of them is gold plated o silver too. I found them in an old closet and I dont know anything about pocket watches. Thanks to everyone.
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    Re: Help cyma, waltham and milwaukee

    The Waltham is a 7 jewel version of their Model 1883 18 size movement, this one manufactured in 1904. The case is an AWCC (American Watch Case Co.) 20 year gold filled "Fortune" case. The 20 year bit was a method of referring to the thickness of the gold layer in the gold fill material - a sandwich of thin layers of gold bonded around a thicker brass core which gave the look of gold at a fraction of the cost - "guaranteed" to last 20 years before wearing to show the brass. The porcelain dial looks ot be in good condition and is an interesting style. Hands look OK. This was a base grade 18 size movement and Waltham made a lot of them as you can see in the details on the Pocket Watch Database link below:

    https://pocketwatchdatabase.com/sear...ltham/13961316

    The Cyma has a 7 jewel movement. The overall watch style looks ot be from the 1920s or so.

    The Milwaukee brings some levity to the table. It's what is commonly referred to as a "Swiss Fake", a low quality watch made to appear to be a quality American watch. The inexpensive movements in these watches often have bogus markings such as the "Highly Jeweled" (rubbish claim) and "Six Positions (again, rubbish claim). A bit of a novelty and fun but basically a low quality watch.
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    Thanks a lot for those comment Gummby992. I would have never see that of the Milwaukee coming. And in your opinion, which of those 2 watches, cyma and waltham, is more desirable? Should I expect one of them beeing more accurate and more valuable?
    Any opinions and comments are desirable.
    Thanks!

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    Re: Help cyma, waltham and milwaukee

    I like the Waltham. It's a lower-jeweled version of the Model 1883 movement but holds more interest to me as a watch overall.

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