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    Help dating a smiths watch

    Hello, I have recently purchased a Smiths watch and was curious to know when it was made.

    I know its a fairly cheap watch, but I always love to know the age of things!

    I have also took a photo of my Omega Constellation, which I have been able to date to 1973 from the serial number.

    Many thanks, Steve.
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    First featured in the Smiths catalogue in 1958, listed as model YS.31, it stayed in the line up for '59 and '60. Then appeared again in 1961 as the re-coded YS301, YS was a reference to the Ystradgynlais factory in South Wales where these watches were manufactured. I think yours is the later YS301 as the earlier model did not have 'shockproof' around the sub seconds dial.

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    Re: Help dating a smiths watch

    Brilliant, thanks v8, the seller had described it as 1970s, but I had a feeling it could be earlier. Is it possible this model could have carried on untill the 1970s?

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    Re: Help dating a smiths watch

    Quote Originally Posted by Steven Bham View Post
    Is it possible this model could have carried on untill the 1970s?
    It's not mentioned after 1961 so I would say no. Of course stock could have hung about for many years after the particular model was ended. By the 1970s things where almost up for Smiths and the models of that period were not so classy looking as the one you have, so I am happy with the early 1960s dating of it.

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    Re: Help dating a smiths watch

    Ok, once again thanks a lot for your help.

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    Re: Help dating a smiths watch

    Hi V8,

    I am hoping you have the Smiths reference guide and if so I have a question. 15 jewel Smiths deluxe.Can you date this watch?Using the Smiths site I narrowed it down to 2 dates. 1953- Hopeful and 1955-likely.Movement # C245679. However I could be wrong on both counts. Be great if you can confirm. Let me know if you need more pics or info.





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    Re: Help dating a smiths watch

    James, here is an ad from 1952, featuring what I think is your watch, the A.207. I can't find reference to it in subsequent years but models close by in number are shown, A.204 and A.208 appear until the mid fifties.

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    Re: Help dating a smiths watch

    There are also these two advertised in the 1952 catalogue as 'waterproof' with Aquatite cases, B is the A.406 and C is the A.401 however the hands look different to yours and the sub seconds dial is smaller.

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    Re: Help dating a smiths watch

    Many thanks V8.

    Smiths records aren't complete so it is hard to define exactly.I have seen many that are close. 15 jewels logo is straight rather than curved around the sub dial and the 15 and 45 within the sub dial are at right angles to the 30 and 60. I can only find one other sub dial like that on the Smiths site. I might have to be satisfied with circa mid 50's.

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    Re: Help dating a smiths watch

    I would think early 1950s, as towards the middle and later half of that decade centre seconds were much more prevalent, subsequently the 15 jewel range was reduced.

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