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    Help with this Elgin

    Hi All, looking for some help finding out more about this Elgin watch. Has a back casing that opens like a pocket watch to expose the mechanism. All I can find is that is manufactured between 1900 and 1910. Any help will be greatly appreciated. Thanks
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    Re: Help with this Elgin

    Got this from Elgin Watches Serial Numbers | Elgin National Watch Company Serial Number, Elgin pocket watch

    Elgin Serial Number : 13623540
    Production Year :1909
    Size :0s
    Jewels :7 jewels
    Grade :320
    Model :2
    Class :116
    Run Quantity :6000
    Production Dates :1903 to 1916
    Total Grade Production :914000
    Movement Configuration :Hunter Case
    Movement Setting :Pendant Wind and Set
    Movement Finish :Nickel Damaskeening
    Plate :3/4 Plate
    Barrel :Going Barrel
    Adjusted :No

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    Re: Help with this Elgin

    That looks like some home made engraving.

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    Re: Help with this Elgin

    I'm pretty sure the engraving is original.

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    Re: Help with this Elgin

    BTW DarrinG, welcome to WUS.

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    Thanks Zisguy, Any idea of value?

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    Re: Help with this Elgin

    Quote Originally Posted by DarrinG View Post
    Thanks Zisguy, Any idea of value?
    Hi DarrinG, as a part of the rules in this forum we are not allowed to discuss valuations. Please see sticky at the top of this forum. Cheers

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    Re: Help with this Elgin

    Quote Originally Posted by ZisguyZaphod View Post
    Got this from Elgin Watches Serial Numbers | Elgin National Watch Company Serial Number, Elgin pocket watch

    Elgin Serial Number : 13623540
    Production Year :1909
    Size :0s
    Jewels :7 jewels
    Grade :320
    Model :2
    Class :116
    Run Quantity :6000
    Production Dates :1903 to 1916
    Total Grade Production :914000
    Movement Configuration :Hunter Case
    Movement Setting :Pendant Wind and Set
    Movement Finish :Nickel Damaskeening
    Plate :3/4 Plate
    Barrel :Going Barrel
    Adjusted :No
    Just wondering about whether it's the original case to this watch?

    The reason I ask this is the production year for the movement is 1909 (as given). But the case is marked (Birmingham) Dennison Watch Case Co LTD.
    Dennison converted to limited liability in 1919 meaning that case had to have been made sometimes after that date. Those "W" year letters are slighlty
    tricky to decipher as many look very similar. But assuming that the case was made post 1919 the closest "W" year happens to be 1921.
    So that means if the movement was made in 1909 it would had to have been "somewhere in the system" for at least 12 years before being cased.
    The other thing there is no Lion passant stamped that I can see.
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    Re: Help with this Elgin

    The case is 9kt gold, which has some value in itself. Is there an engraving on the back?

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    Re: Help with this Elgin

    It was quite common when wristwatches became popular after WWI for american ladies size movements to be recased in men's wristwatch cases. It may be original to this case, but be it's second case. The dates for the movement and case support that pretty well. There is no way to tell if it was originally in a hunter case, or if the movement sat on a shelf for a bunch of years.

    Also, there were tons of these lower grade 0s elgins made, their case screws all match up with one another, so there's always the possibility someone threw that movement in there a couple years ago. There's simply no way to tell.

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