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    Help ID Pocket Watch

    Hello,
    This is a GREAT board! Hopefully you guys can help me out. I have a vintage pocket watch that I've been trying to get more information on.

    I can't locate a date on the Mechanism and the name is a bit hard to read. Looks like Justus Wersebe of Joy Windsor with some other markings below it I can't figure out. Also No. 1476.

    The Case lid is only stamped on the inside with an I, and what looks like a leaf and a shield shape. Pictures below:









    Any help on an approximate date and origin would be great!

    - Jeff
    San Diego, CA

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    closeups of the hallmarks on the underside of the back would help!
    "Forever is composed of nows." - Emily Dickinson

    "The watch has to be surrounded by a history.
    You need more than just a great design. You need to create an atmosphere around the product.
    Who is the company behind it? Why are they using this material?
    People need to be able to identify the watch with themselves. It's based on emotion." - Ralph Furter

    ...that's just my opinion and I've been wrong before and will be again and might be now!

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    Re: Help ID Pocket Watch

    Ok, hopefully this is good enough, the case lid doesn't want to open up enough to get clearer shots.


    This is the only marking on the outside of the watch:



    - Jeff

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    Re: Help ID Pocket Watch

    Wow... not so easy. I would posit it's a sterling silver case assayed in London in 1804 or 1884... I might be wrong. But I would not date the movement as either that early or that late... Hummmm.... maybe the date code is an "L" and that would make it possibly 1885... Here is a hallmark site, you can try this yourself!
    "Forever is composed of nows." - Emily Dickinson

    "The watch has to be surrounded by a history.
    You need more than just a great design. You need to create an atmosphere around the product.
    Who is the company behind it? Why are they using this material?
    People need to be able to identify the watch with themselves. It's based on emotion." - Ralph Furter

    ...that's just my opinion and I've been wrong before and will be again and might be now!

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    Re: Help ID Pocket Watch

    I'd say 1804. It looks like the leopard mark and "I" which would make it London at that date. Definitely not 1884.
    The movement is a verge and could date as early as that. It's a historic piece and thanks for posting.

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    Re: Help ID Pocket Watch

    Oh, you wanted an origin too... England. It's definitely an old movement. Ray may be correct in his 1804. Since this is older than even me, I can't be sure
    "Forever is composed of nows." - Emily Dickinson

    "The watch has to be surrounded by a history.
    You need more than just a great design. You need to create an atmosphere around the product.
    Who is the company behind it? Why are they using this material?
    People need to be able to identify the watch with themselves. It's based on emotion." - Ralph Furter

    ...that's just my opinion and I've been wrong before and will be again and might be now!

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    Re: Help ID Pocket Watch

    Hi there,

    Looks like the movement says:

    Justis Werseb(e) (must have this wrong)(e) might be &
    Ja(s) Windsor (abbreviation for James, watch and clockmaker about this time)
    London

    Hallmarks:
    Facing leopard head LONDON
    Rampant lion is quality Silver
    "I" date letter 1804 for London
    "IC" silversmith name may be Joseph Craddock of London

    Sincerely,
    Bill Jensen

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