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    help identifing old pocket watch?

    hello, im kinda stuck i found this old pocket watch, it appears to me to be old, lol maybe vey old, only marking i found was "26" and there is a micro chain around a gear wheel, much like a chain saw chain, the balance is enclosed in what looks to be a "hand carved" encasement.

    im not really a pocket watch guy, but something about this lured me in, the guy that had this refused to sell me a rockford pocket watch and said this one i could have because it was'nt marked silveriod, he was under the impression silveriod was gold/silver.....

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    Re: help identifing old pocket watch?

    I noticed a IKJ on the inside of the case near the movement and hinge if it helps

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    Re: help identifing old pocket watch?

    Check the vintage forum. Looks really old to me, maybe 1850-70's? Pretty unique looking so someone should be able to identify it. Good luck!

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    I couldnt find the vintage forum, im kinda slow with these things. thanks, if anyone could move it i'd be thankful

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    It's a double cased verge-and-fusee escapement, probably a Swiss mechanism cased in England. The case is silver. My best guess for a date, only going on the style of the dial and movement layout, is from 1780 to 1810. The watch paper had a few purposes - it was used as both a service token (the date of service could be written on it and kept in the case so as to not forget when it was due next), as a business card for the watchmaker, and to protect the mechanism from collecting too much dust. Due to the nature of the material, watch papers are relatively rare and rather collectible today.
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    Re: help identifing old pocket watch?

    Quote Originally Posted by TimeWizard View Post
    It's a double cased verge-and-fusee escapement, probably a Swiss mechanism cased in England. The case is silver. My best guess for a date, only going on the style of the dial and movement layout, is from 1780 to 1810. The watch paper had a few purposes - it was used as both a service token (the date of service could be written on it and kept in the case so as to not forget when it was due next), as a business card for the watchmaker, and to protect the mechanism from collecting too much dust. Due to the nature of the material, watch papers are relatively rare and rather collectible today.
    Fully agree except for one thing: the case is probably a Swiss fake of an English watch case. Swiss made watch carried little prestige during this period which was overwhelmingly dominated by English and French makers. the Swiss produced quite a few phony "English" watches right down to engraving English sounding names on them and using cases that imitated exactly English cases.

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    Why an english case? Paper of a watchmaker from Feuchtwangen , Middle Franken, Bavaria. (Sh. Daucherl, big and smal clockmaker, Feuchtwangen). Intriguing marks and holes on the inside of the outer casing
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    thank you, i couldnt find it, this is the outside of the outer caseName:  001.JPG
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    Tortoise like.
    The chain you mentioned is a compesation for the force of the unwinding spring. A kind of gearbox. The front winding is typical french (also seen on swiss watches).

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