Help identify Swiss "Dreadnought" Pocket Watch

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    Help identify Swiss "Dreadnought" Pocket Watch

    Hello all,

    You guys are a wealth of knowledge and thank you for all your help identifying my random purchases.

    I have a swiss pocket watch which has an unsigned dial. However, on the movement it features a unique hallmark showing a lion with a fish body with the words "DREADNOUGHT" and markings of 17 Jewels Swiss Adjusted 26471.

    The case is marked as English Made of 10 Ct gold plates on the inner case and on the outer case inside it stated Moon Trade Mark A.L.D. Donaldson Watch Case Co.

    Any help in identifying this pocket watch would be very much appreciated. It is not running and missing a part for the winding wheel. Need to decide if it is worth fixing.

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    Re: Help identify Swiss "Dreadnought" Pocket Watch

    Realize that running pocket watches often cost more to service than they would sell for... Add the cost of repair and, unless the watch has some sentimental value, it is not a positive economic proposition.
    "Forever is composed of nows." - Emily Dickinson

    "The watch has to be surrounded by a history.
    You need more than just a great design. You need to create an atmosphere around the product.
    Who is the company behind it? Why are they using this material?
    People need to be able to identify the watch with themselves. It's based on emotion." - Ralph Furter

    ...that's just my opinion and I've been wrong before and will be again and might be now!

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    Re: Help identify Swiss "Dreadnought" Pocket Watch

    Looks like an early 20th century Swiss movement. I don't know the maker, sorry. It's a Dennison gold filled case.
    Repair is going to cost more than the watch is worth and could be justified if it's a family heirloom. Otherwise not worth it, as Eeeb has already posted.

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    Re: Help identify Swiss "Dreadnought" Pocket Watch

    I think its a Record.......see attach

    have any of these marks?

    http://www.ranfft.de/cgi-bin/bidfun-...swk&Record_000

    Actually heres another one

    http://cgi.ebay.nl/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?...m=150314222615
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    Re: Help identify Swiss "Dreadnought" Pocket Watch

    Looks like a good possibility. Thanks for your post.
    Update: In my text by Alan Shenton, Dreadnought was indeed listed as one of the Record brands.
    Last edited by Ray MacDonald; December 9th, 2008 at 03:43.

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    Re: Help identify Swiss "Dreadnought" Pocket Watch

    Quote Originally Posted by aliasrichmond View Post
    I think its a Record.......see attach

    have any of these marks?

    http://www.ranfft.de/cgi-bin/bidfun-...swk&Record_000

    Actually heres another one

    http://cgi.ebay.nl/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?...m=150314222615
    Thank you for the information.

    Unfortunately, the watch does not contain any of the markings. The only marking is the lion with a fish body in a circle with the words "DREADNOUGHT" in a ribbon over the image.

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    Re: Help identify Swiss "Dreadnought" Pocket Watch

    I should add that the new text I have by Alan Shenton shows a Record Dreadnought in a very similar Dennison case. This watch was dated 1917. So I think your watch may predate that a bit, but it probably was a Record made watch sold in the UK under the Dreadnought brand.

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    Re: Help identify Swiss "Dreadnought" Pocket Watch

    The case on ebay.nl is identical, so I would say yours is the same brand, just a little earlier....having Roman numerals instead of arabic

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    Re: Help identify Swiss "Dreadnought" Pocket Watch

    They probably came up with the name Dreadnought as a brand name since the first real English battle ship was named the Dreadnought.Here a link for info HMS Dreadnought http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dreadnought

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