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    Help identify "trench watch" movement.

    Recently got this little guy for a steal. It's an enamel faced Actina trench style watch I presume from the teens or early 20s. Love the look and it runs nicely so the balance is good luckily. My only problem is the lack of identification. No Swiss at 6, nothing on the case back in or out, and nothing on the movement. The movement looks to be of decent quality with some jewels but no maker and an odd bridge shape. Anyone know the movement or date for this guy?
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    Re: Help identify "trench watch" movement.

    Anyone? Usually you guys love identifying movements!
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    Re: Help identify "trench watch" movement.

    Well, it reminds me a little bit of Junghans pocket watch movements, but I guess it's not that. I've spent quite some time browsing the Ranfft archive, to no avail. Maybe someone else will know, I gave up trying to identify this one. No markings whatsoever... Looking up Actina in Mikrolisk reveals only brands from Chaux-de-Fonds, so I guess it is- on the contrary to the lack of markings- a Swiss piece, but I'm nowhere near certain.
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    Re: Help identify "trench watch" movement.

    Kinda looks to me a little like FEF movements.
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    Re: Help identify "trench watch" movement.

    Quote Originally Posted by mkws View Post
    Well, it reminds me a little bit of Junghans pocket watch movements, but I guess it's not that. I've spent quite some time browsing the Ranfft archive, to no avail. Maybe someone else will know, I gave up trying to identify this one. No markings whatsoever... Looking up Actina in Mikrolisk reveals only brands from Chaux-de-Fonds, so I guess it is- on the contrary to the lack of markings- a Swiss piece, but I'm nowhere near certain.
    Yeah I'm also at a loss here. The smaller plate design is not like any others I can find. I'm not really willing to take the dial off or disassemble the movement right now so it won't kill me not to know the maker.
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    Re: Help identify "trench watch" movement.

    I've seen it around, but I have never identified it.

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    Re: Help identify "trench watch" movement.

    Quote Originally Posted by trim View Post
    I've seen it around, but I have never identified it.
    Where??
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    Re: Help identify "trench watch" movement.

    Quote Originally Posted by HOROLOGIST007 View Post
    Where??
    Well, here is one example on ebay.

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    Re: Help identify "trench watch" movement.

    Quote Originally Posted by trim View Post
    Excellent thanks - I would suspect that Dr Rannft or possible Hartmut may help us figure it out, as if Staufffer was using it (and marked) its probably a fairly well known ebauch maker?

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    Re: Help identify "trench watch" movement.

    Guys, I think I found a lead on what this might be. Not listed in the Ranfft archive, but there is a PW movement pretty similar to that in there, the shape of the balance cock and bridges might actually point to the same manufacturer. And no "Swiss" in there would be explained, since the movement in question is a Favor, which were made in Pforzheim, Germany:
    bidfun-db Archive: Watch Movements: Favor 14
    Now, it's obviously not this particular movement, but it shares certain characteristics that I have mentioned.
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