Help identifying 17-jewel Vulcain, few markings.

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    Help identifying 17-jewel Vulcain, few markings.

    I have an old 17-jewel lady's watch with the Vulcain name on it, and I'm trying to ID it. I picked it up in a junk bag at a Goodwill outlet so I have no provenance on the watch. Some details make me suspect that instead of an old Vulcain, it may be an old forgery.

    The watch face itself is marked VULCAIN above the hands, 17 JEWELS below, them, and simply SWISS at the very bottom; the hands show some corrosion under high magnification. The band also shows some corrosion and is marked HONG KONG on the clasp. The watch back is stamped PROSPECT / HONG KONG inside.


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    The movement itself doesn't identify the maker, as far as I can tell. Looking at it with the stem at right and the largest gear on top, it has the following three markings:

    (1) to the right of the gear, stamped vertically, is 17 JEWELS / SEVENTEEN

    (2) at the base of the stem there is a marking A4.

    (3) At bottom right, underneath some sort of wheel thingy (that term should tell you how much I know about watch movements) is the one identifier I could find. It appears to say 6061-27, and beneath that RAX.
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    Can anyone point me in the right direction?

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    Re: Help identifying 17-jewel Vulcain, few markings.

    Hi,

    The caseback stamped Hong Kong is not a great start.

    The movement itself has some Swissness. RAX is a Rhonda sub brand but I doubt Vulcain would have used a Rhonda movement as they did develop their own calibres.
    Unfortunately because of the flash I cant get a real good look at the dial. I would agree with your suspicion that this watch is not the real McCoy.
    Others may know more.

    Regards,

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    Re: Help identifying 17-jewel Vulcain, few markings.

    Quote Originally Posted by James A View Post
    Hi,

    The caseback stamped Hong Kong is not a great start.

    The movement itself has some Swissness. RAX is a Rhonda sub brand but I doubt Vulcain would have used a Rhonda movement as they did develop their own calibres.
    Unfortunately because of the flash I cant get a real good look at the dial. I would agree with your suspicion that this watch is not the real McCoy.
    Others may know more.

    Regards,
    Thanks, James. Here's a better look at the face.

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    Re: Help identifying 17-jewel Vulcain, few markings.

    It does appear to be a Ronda cal. 6061-21 movement.

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    Re: Help identifying 17-jewel Vulcain, few markings.

    Hi,

    Well the dial looks ... ok!

    I would date this watch to the 60s/70s. At this time Vulcain has come under the control of Revue. Not sure if Revue used Rhonda movements ??
    With image search I cant find a similar watch to yours or indeed a Vulcain housing a Rhonda/Rax movement. At best I would say the dial could be original. However the caseback marked Hong Kong is wrong and the movement is highly suspect. Sorry I cant be more definitive for you.

    Regards,

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