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    Help identifying age and movement

    I found this old thing (small mens watch) in a small lot of watches i baught in a auktion and need some help placing it in time.

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    As you can see it's got some condition issues with the crystal but in general it looks very nice

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    The dial is nice after all these years (age showes of course) but no branding on it.

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    Here is the strange part there is no information of the movements origin. There is usally at least the country name stamped like Swiss but nothing at all.

    I tried to clean the crystal but it started to smell like earth an spearmint so I stopped. I thought this was a 50's watch but I now think it's older so any idés?

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    Re: Help identifying age and movement

    Late 1920's through 1930's. The crystals always need changing on these. If you pulled the dial it would almost certainly show the manufacturer - I'm sure that Harmut will leap in here as he usually does with these movements but I'm going to go with A Schild. You might be able to peep under the dial as the markings are often close to the edge.


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    Re: Help identifying age and movement

    +1...late 1920s to early 1930s. As for the movement - I can't help.

    Is the case solid gold? For all the wear it doesn't look brassed in the picture.

    I like it - nice catch.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mirius View Post
    Late 1920's through 1930's. The crystals always need changing on these. If you pulled the dial it would almost certainly show the manufacturer - I'm sure that Harmut will leap in here as he usually does with these movements but I'm going to go with A Schild. You might be able to peep under the dial as the markings are often close to the edge.
    Thanks that was somthing I didn't know but I can't see any brand so I will have to remove the dial. I don't have a good hand remover so I have to buy a better one so I don't damage the dial.

    Quote Originally Posted by Paleotime View Post
    +1...late 1920s to early 1930s. As for the movement - I can't help.

    Is the case solid gold? For all the wear it doesn't look brassed in the picture.

    I like it - nice catch.
    Sorry only plate but it sure looks great.

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    Its an interesting looking watch - Dial looks like a clock with the inner 24 hour track

    When you take the hands of, put a side from a small thin plastic bag over the dial.
    The hand remover will grip underneath the plastic and you won't scratch the (metal) dial
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    Re: Help identifying age and movement

    Am I right in thinking this old silver watch is of the same era?

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    I thought is was a kids watch at first because of the painted numbers.

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    No it was a silver watch (First I have seen in real life). That is actually the full adress to the owner of the watch and I bet it was hit pride and joy.

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    At least it's Swiss made. :)

    The engraving on the movement is that a manufacturers name or just some nice artwork?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shum View Post
    Am I right in thinking this old silver watch is of the same era?

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    I thought is was a kids watch at first because of the painted numbers.

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    No it was a silver watch (First I have seen in real life).

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    At least it's Swiss made. :)

    The engraving on the movement is that a manufacturers name or just some nice artwork?

    Enamel dial (double sunk) so I think earlier than the OP. say 1920s. Engraving indicates (maybe) 23 = 1923 Very nice indeed. That is a good piece
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    Re: Help identifying age and movement

    I'd be inclined to say it's in the same 20-30's era as the OP's. This one has unusual dial-screws; not sure if that would be original or not. The crown wheel design reminds me of some Gallet's from that era. I suspect the markings on the movement were added by the owner; they look like they go through the gilding, whereas a makers mark would likely have been added before the gilding.
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    Re: Help identifying age and movement

    Quote Originally Posted by HOROLOGIST007 View Post
    Enamel dial (double sunk) so I think earlier than the OP. say 1920s. Engraving indicates (maybe) 23 = 1923 Very nice indeed. That is a good piece
    Thanks! The 23 is the owners street number so it's his full name and address.

    It's a watch I was thinking of having repaired (To scary for me at the moment) so I can use it myself because it's the right size and very coulorful and funky.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shum View Post
    Thanks! The 23 is the owners street number so it's his full name and address.

    It's a watch I was thinking of having repaired (To scary for me at the moment) so I can use it myself because it's the right size and very coulorful and funky.
    Thats a great idea.
    I love the cushion shape and the dial is fantastic
    Try looking up the address??
    Search out the owner.
    I still think is a 20s timepiece

    Great piece
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