I'd put it in the 1910-1920 range. I tend to associate "2 Adj." with the period prior to 1913 (when the US allowed companies to put "unadjusted" on movements), but that's a US thing; I think the U.K. had their own marking requirements which also influenced this. No hits on "cine freres", but given that it just means "Cine Brothers", it likely just refers to some small watchmaker.
I found a similar watch on ebay. Cine will be Racine, two letters missing on the watch movement. Does anyone have info about Racine freres?
Racine Freres !!! If you hit the Racine ( Enicar, reversed written ) -Electa-Jeanneret-Gallet dynasty with this watch,is wonderful.Movement could be Electa,maybe an early example?
Pardon the interruption guys.
The more certain thing is that you probably won't find "unadjusted" on a movement from before 1913; there would have been no point. And it's unlikely you'd have seen "2 adj" before 1909, for the same reason; you didn't want to make a explicit point of how low-grade your movement was if you didn't have to.
Also, after the 1922 tariff act, the number of adjustments on a 17 jewel watch increased the tariff rate; just temp was $2.75, three adj. was $4.75 and five adj. was $6.50. That lasted till 1930, when 17j watches were just flat-taxed at $10.75, and the number of adjustments was only a factor for watches with less then 17 jewels.
Thanks for explaining it in such great detail Rob, I did not know this and it could prove an enormous help in the future.
same movement of Racine was also marketed by Bulova years 1911-12
It also occurs to me that this is where the story about marking movts 'unadjusted' would save the importer money. This occurs even today, but there are no markings involved. We had to do final adjustment on some high end watches in large numbers because they had come from the factory literally 'unadjusted'. I can only assume this was a cost cutting measure.
What I originally heard was that movts that were 'unfinished' avoided certain tariffs, and an unadjusted movt could be considered 'unfinished' in this respect.
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