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    Help identifying P.Moser

    Hello

    I have this old Paul Moser watch but unfortunately I don`t know much about it and was hoping to get some help from here...
    If I googled the name then looked like there are several watch brands called Moser?

    Does anyone know in more detail what watch do I have here?
    About the manufacturer/brand? About this watch/model? Year? Is it common watch or something rare?
    Would be thankful for any information about the watch.
    Watch itself is in working condition but time has left some marks...

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    Thanks!
    BR!
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    Re: Help identifying P.Moser

    A miracle. An actual unukrainetized PM.
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    Re: Help identifying P.Moser

    Hi and welcome
    You have a nice so called 'Trench Watch' from around 1920 - (actually I thought a bit earlier like 1917 till I looked up the company records - below)
    Its got nice swivel lugs, enamel dial with original Radium Lume.
    Paul Moser and Co. SA (Swiss) - Bienne
    Listed 1920 - 1926

    There are other 'Moser' Companies - more famous like H Moser which became IWC
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    HY. Moser - Le Locle and St. Petersburg
    But your is marked Paul Moser case and dial

    Hope that helps
    Its a nice watch and collectible
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    Re: Help identifying P.Moser

    Thank You very much for the information Adam!
    You also mentioned that this watch is collectible...where do You recommend me to offer it? Is there some collector sites? And do You also know what is presumable price for this P.Moser?


    pithy - what do You mean with unukrainetized?
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    Re: Help identifying P.Moser

    Pithy means that there is an active community of "watch modders" in the Ukrain that specialize in taking old pocket watches and "converting" them to this style of case (usually with badly redialed faces), then selling them at high prices to unsuspecting newbs under the guise of being authentic "vintage" wristlets.
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    Re: Help identifying P.Moser

    Interesting information.
    And how to make sure which one is this? Real or Ukrainian modification?

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    Re: Help identifying P.Moser

    Your watch is 100% original and genuine.
    Best place to sell in my opinion would be eBay.
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    Re: Help identifying P.Moser

    Adam
    no offense but I do not think is correct
    maybe Heinrich Moser help Florentine Ariosto to start IWC
    regards enrico

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    Re: Help identifying P.Moser

    Quote Originally Posted by eri231 View Post
    Adam
    no offense but I do not think is correct
    maybe Heinrich Moser help Florentine Ariosto to start IWC
    regards enrico
    NO offense taken
    Pritchard gives full details - i will trype exactly what was said
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    " Moser was looking for a watch industry to use his watch cases. Tolke surmised that the American, Aaron Dennison, then living in Zurich, brought Moser together with the American.
    F.A. Jones, who wanted to establish a watch business in Switzerland using automatic machinery.
    With MOSER's encouragement, this enterprise became The International Watch Company"
    UNQUOTE
    Pritchards reference to this
    'Tolke, Hans Friedrich, and J King, IWC , International Watch co, Schaffhausen. English Edition (1987)

    So there you have it.
    Take it or leave it

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    Re: Help identifying P.Moser

    yes Adam
    "With MOSER's encouragement, this enterprise became The International Watch Company"

    The artistic skill of Heinrich Moser’s creations very soon gained him international respect and recognition. He became the leading Schaffhausen exponent of this craft with businesses in St. Petersburg and Le Locle, among other locations. He opened a workshop for the manufacture of watch cases in Schaffhausen in 1853, and he established a school for watchmakers in 1856. He supported F. A. Jones in the foundation of the International Watch Company (IWC) in 1868 by providing him with premises and low-cost electricity supplied via a power transmission system.

    THE MOSER WATCHMAKING DYNASTY IN SCHAFFHAUSEN
    regards enrico

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