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    Help identifying a vintage Breitling.

    Seller thought it was from around the 40s but I couldnt find anything to confirm. Thanks in advance.Name:  photo 1.JPG
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    Re: Help identifying a vintage Breitling.

    I am no expert in Breitling, but made my first expensive failure with it.

    Is it a South American seller maybe? The case doesnt look OK, I have never seen those lugs on a vintage Breitling, the movement doesnt belong also to that case, the dial is repainted. The way of signing the dial looks South American job. There are not a lot Breitlings bridge signed before WW II, so somebody signed just everywhere possible to have justification. If you didn't buy it yet,I would say stay away. if you bought it already, wait somebody else to come and comment also who has more vertical depth in Breitling.

    As said no expert opinion but mentioning just what I saw and read since a while.
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    Re: Help identifying a vintage Breitling.

    it must be powered by a venus 150, early mid 30's model I would say. Watchfred who is a serious Breitling collector will be of better help than me
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    Re: Help identifying a vintage Breitling.

    Thank you both. Still trying to get more information.

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    Re: Help identifying a vintage Breitling.

    I agree with all said above. dial is clearly refinished, Breitling logo on dial and bridge wrong for the period (assume watch is early 1930s), bridges were unmarked until the early 1940s, dials unmarked or marked "Montbrillant". is there a serial number outside the caseback, is the watch 18k or GP ? franken at best, I'd say.
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    Re: Help identifying a vintage Breitling.

    Actually those 3 min markers at the 45 min totalizer are not correct for its possible age also. Those intervals were added to timepieces in the 40's for international phone calls.

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    Re: Help identifying a vintage Breitling.

    While the lack of an incabloc shock protection would suggest prior to 1938, I don't think that is a Venus 150. Maybe a clone? The column wheel on V150's should have 7 pillars, not 5. I have a Gallet powered by the 150, but can't find my photo. Here is one from Gallet themselves:
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    And most definitely a re-dial job. I would stay away from this one.
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    Re: Help identifying a vintage Breitling.

    definitely not a Venus 150, no doubt, here's an mid 1940s Breitling V150.
    there is a mid 1930s "Montbrillant Sprint" advertisement that shows a watch with similar lugs AND a "Breitling" brandee dial, never saw one in the metal or photographed. would want additional pics.

    edit: the only similar movement I find on pics is defined as a Venus 165 - but it is the notoriously unreliable Breitling Museum of Michael Maerz who lists this, Ranfft has no mention of it.

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    Re: Help identifying a vintage Breitling.

    I had these ads saved, but I believe they were with 12''' Landeron cal,not Venus, no movement shots though:

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    This one is from 1936

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    I have actually one of these but we couldn't identify the maker, but definitely from the same era:

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    Nothing marked at inner case back, 30mm w/out crown.
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    Re: Help identifying a vintage Breitling.

    found the ad I was referring to, mid 1930s.


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