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    Help in identifying this watch

    Good day everyone, could someone be of assistance in identifying this watch.Name:  Web pic 1.jpg
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    Re: Help in identifying this watch

    Welcome to the Vintage forum. I am afraid that we can say very little about the watch until we see a movement picture (the "works" inside, under the inner back cover). It is obviously key wound and set since it has no crown so that places it into the 19th century. A gut feeling tells me that it's Swiss but for that we would need to see the inside. It should be 18K gold (I suspect that's what the "18" inside the back cover denotes) and, if the design on the outer back cover (arm holding an axe) is anything to go by, the case (and perhaps more) may be by David Perret of Neuchatel, Switzerland who was among other things a case maker, but I stress that this is a very tentative assessment.

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    Re: Help in identifying this watch

    Thank you very much for the reply. I will attempt to take a picture of the inside tomorrow sometime and post. Not sure how the opening of it works and if it looks to be something I might damage I will step away until I can put it in the hands of someone how knows what they're doing. The 'Arm with Axe' is a Tucker family crest and from what I have found out to date, this watch seems to point to one Henry St. George Tucker (1771-1851). He was a director of the British East India Company from 1826-1851.
    Thank you for your assistance and input, it's been most helpful.
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    Kerry

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    Hi and welcome
    That is a very interesting piece.
    And if your research is correct the provenance makes the watch an even more important piece.

    I am going to stick my neck out and say the mark on inside cover is a London Gold mark for 18kt and the 'f' would make it 1821.
    Please note this is just a 'hunch' by me - I am not an assay expert!
    Watch look 100% original - key setting and key wind.
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    Again I suspect a Fusee movement and possible verge escapement.
    Pictures will help decide
    Its a very nice early piece - Take care of it

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    Good Day gents,

    Herewith a pic of the inner works case. Hope this can provide some assistance to the case of.....

    Kerry

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    Re: Help in identifying this watch

    To see the full movement you still need to remove the dust cover, slide the black semi circle down and you should be able to lift it off.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dgf67 View Post
    To see the full movement you still need to remove the dust cover, slide the black semi circle down and you should be able to lift it off.
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    Re: Help in identifying this watch

    OK
    I can add maker is Leond Johnson. 19 Bartlett's Buildings , 1825
    So I think this will be a Fusee, with verge escapement

    Now we Google Leond Johnson

    Its looking very nice
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    Re: Help in identifying this watch

    Thank you squire, busy trying to locate as we speak. So far it's said that there were silver and gold merchants in the building around that time so the digging commences.

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    Re: Help in identifying this watch

    Quote Originally Posted by Kerry Langford View Post
    Thank you squire, busy trying to locate as we speak. So far it's said that there were silver and gold merchants in the building around that time so the digging commences.
    Pleasure Kerry
    I did some searching and strangle found nothing..
    But that is the man Info from Brittens Book of Watchmakere.
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