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    Help me....identifier movement?

    Hello people.

    Can someone help me to identify this movement?
    The pocket watch is a Singer bought on Ebay from Turkey.
    Thanks to all those who want to answer me.




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    Re: Help me....identifier movement?

    My guess would be a Unitas 429 or 430:
    bidfun-db Archive: Watch Movements: Unitas 429
    The movement pictured in Ranfft archive looks like the base movement, and these two are annotated as having a "new balance" which would explain the difference in the balance cock shape.
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    Re: Help me....identifier movement?

    Probably not; the balance cock shape is very rarely changed even with different bridge layouts. More importantly, the design of the pallet cock almost never changes. It looks more like an AS family to me: bidfun-db Archive: Watch Movements: AS 1058
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    Re: Help me....identifier movement?

    Quite possible it's an AS indeed- the description in the Ranfft archive gives another "various bridge layouts", so...

    EDIT: Here are the Mikrolisk results for Singer: http://mikrolisk.de/show.php?site=28...rk#sucheMarker
    Strange, I associate that brand name with sewing machines rather than watches, I even happen to have one...
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    Re: Help me....identifier movement?

    Interestingly enough, this is actually a 3/4 plate design; the escape wheel "cock" is part of the single plate, designed to look like a separate piece. From the picture, it doesn't even look like there's a screw-hole to accept the third plate screw (which only really exists to complete the illusion of a separate cock). Very strange, that part.
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    Re: Help me....identifier movement?

    Guys ...
    thank you all for having responded to me ...
    I think AbslomRob're right.
    I wanted to take the watch apart to see the other side of the movement.
    AS is engraved on side.
    But on WEB did not find the exact same movement.
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    Re: Help me....identifier movement?

    Once again, the "various bridge layouts" in the Ranfft database plays a major role- one movement family might have dozens of these layouts, and I don't think it's possible to list them all. Well, maybe it is, but it's bloody hard for damn sure. As AbslomRob has said, it's an AS, which is proven to be such by the balance cock shape, the dial side engraving, as well as the keyless works- compare the entire dial side to the photo in Ranfft database.
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    Re: Help me....identifier movement?

    The dial-side finish quality is extremely good for the most part, but I there are a few odd things (like the different material for the balance cap plate and a couple of mis-matched screws) that suggest that the watch saw some ham-fisted "servicing" in its life.
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