Help Needed, Identifying a movement - Caliber 68?

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    Help Needed, Identifying a movement - Caliber 68?

    Hi
    I bought and just received this early WWI 'Trench' wristwatch.
    It was described as a "Beautiful WW1 1915 Marconi Officers trench watch"

    On examining it, I saw no indication it was 'Marconi' or Rolex.

    I asked the seller who had been told by two separate sources it was a 'Rolex' Marconi movement, he even gave me a link to another 'Marconi' watch on Ebay that has no marking either on dial or movement.
    I know that seller, and he thinks all his 'unmarked' movements are from the top 5 manufacturers.

    anyway.
    On receiving the watch, there is marked '68' beside the balance wheel on bottom plate. That is all I can see.
    I checked Beguelin (Damas) its not that, I checked Gallet, its not that. Looks more like Fontainemelon. Did they make a '68'

    Hope some one can help






    Its a very nice piece, will post pictures after I can try to find movement and if any links to Rolex

    Thanks
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    Re: Help Needed, Identifying a movement - Caliber 68?

    Not sure if I just want to see similarities.
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    Re: Help Needed, Identifying a movement - Caliber 68?

    Quote Originally Posted by Charon View Post
    Not sure if I just want to see similarities.
    I think you do, and even if it was closer to mine, what make is yours?

    Thanks, but I need closer than that. LOL
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    Re: Help Needed, Identifying a movement - Caliber 68?

    Sorry , I suppose I was just stirring the pot as I haven't got any clues to mine either other than it's in a 1915 sterling W&D wire lug case.

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    Re: Help Needed, Identifying a movement - Caliber 68?

    Quote Originally Posted by Charon View Post
    Sorry , I suppose I was just stirring the pot as I haven't got any clues to mine either other than it's in a 1915 sterling W&D wire lug case.
    Interesting
    Well maybe Roland or others can identify both. BUT mine first.

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    Re: Help Needed, Identifying a movement - Caliber 68?

    There is also some resemblance to early Venus movements.

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    Re: Help Needed, Identifying a movement - Caliber 68?

    Hi there,

    unfortunately most calibres of that time looked similar, and accordingly the advanced search spits out lots of calibres. However, the first begins with "A" (A. Michel) and is thefore quickly found:
    bidfun-db Archive: Watch Movements: AM 220
    But sorry, no match for the second: Probably the maker finished it beyond recognition, and only a dial view could help further.

    Regards, Roland Ranfft

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    Re: Help Needed, Identifying a movement - Caliber 68?

    Quote Originally Posted by Roland Ranfft View Post
    Hi there,

    unfortunately most calibres of that time looked similar, and accordingly the advanced search spits out lots of calibres. However, the first begins with "A" (A. Michel) and is thefore quickly found:
    bidfun-db Archive: Watch Movements: AM 220
    But sorry, no match for the second: Probably the maker finished it beyond recognition, and only a dial view could help further.

    Regards, Roland Ranfft
    Hi Roland
    Really thanks, truly appreciated.
    I have found further details of Michel, A in Kathleen Pritchards books. They were one of the original group of 26 ebauch makers that became EBAUCHES SA

    I have some questions, that maybe you can answer.
    1) Any idea what the '68' is on the bottom plate, actually it looks 68 +, I wondered if it was referring to a patent.

    2) Can you explain how you started your search, so I may learn how to better do it.

    anyway, I doubt this is a Rolex , Marconi.

    Thanks again
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    Re: Help Needed, Identifying a movement - Caliber 68?

    Is that 68 or 38?


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    Re: Help Needed, Identifying a movement - Caliber 68?

    Quote Originally Posted by Mirius View Post
    Is that 68 or 38?
    Hi
    Looks like 68 to me.
    Do you think 38?
    Thanks
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