Help needed. Need age and info about this Waltham pocket watch..

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    Help needed. Need age and info about this Waltham pocket watch..

    Hi.

    A friend of mine bought this watch a few days ago.
    He was told that it was from late 1800.
    Can anyone tell me some history and info from looking at these pictures? Value, excact age, if it's rare, and so on?
    Any info is appreciated.
    Thanks.

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    Re: Help needed to estimate value and age.

    Come on, you know we don't do valuations!

    The markings on the movement are critical to dating... and I can't read them right now
    "Forever is composed of nows." - Emily Dickinson

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    Who is the company behind it? Why are they using this material?
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    Re: Help needed to estimate value and age.

    A Lepine style Waltham, 17 jewel, manufactured during a run of 1500 in 1908, with Breguet hairspring and chatons. A good quality watch, and I highly recommend getting it properly serviced by a watchmaker before winding it or using it.

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    Re: Help needed to estimate value and age.

    hello, according to the serial number it dates to 1908.

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    Re: Help needed to estimate value and age.

    Quote Originally Posted by Eeeb View Post
    Come on, you know we don't do valuations!

    The markings on the movement are critical to dating... and I can't read them right now
    I'm sorry, I didn't know that.
    The back has these engraving: 6361154 Warranted B&B 90 years
    The movement has 16483240

    Is this a common piece?

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    Re: Help needed to estimate value and age.

    Quote Originally Posted by Outta Time View Post
    A Lepine style Waltham, 17 jewel, manufactured during a run of 1500 in 1908, with Breguet hairspring and chatons. A good quality watch, and I highly recommend getting it properly serviced by a watchmaker before winding it or using it.
    Thank you.
    So this is made in 1500 pieces in 1908?
    Thanks again, I really appreciate the help.

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    Re: Help needed to estimate value and age.

    This is a model 1908; there were several million made of that model between its introduction in 1908 and the end of Waltham company in 1949. Yours is a "Grade 625", of which there were about 250,000 made in two styles (open face and hunter).

    So yes, fairly common (which makes them easy to service)
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    Re: Help needed to estimate value and age.

    It's a beautiful watch. Once it's been serviced by a watchmaker, it should keep wonderful time. Waltham was a well-respected brand.

    According to the serial-number, this watch dates to ca. 1908.

    Are you sure it says 90 YEARS on the back? You sure that's not "Warranted / 20 Years"? Which is much more likely...
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    Re: Help needed to estimate value and age.

    Quote Originally Posted by Shangas View Post
    Are you sure it says 90 YEARS on the back? You sure that's not "Warranted / 20 Years"? Which is much more likely...
    I'm sorry. It says warranted 20 years of course :)

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    Re: Help needed to estimate value and age.

    That's more like it.

    Warrented 20 years means that the case is gold-filled. Two sheets of gold welded over a base-metal of brass. Watches with gold-filled cases were typically marked "Guaranteed/Warranted X Years". I believe the maximum was 30 years and the gradings went 5, 10, 20, 25, 30. This type of marking died out in 1924 when I believe it was made illegal to put such warranties on cases because it was believe that they were misleading.
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