Help on Patek Philippe

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  1. #1
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    Help on Patek Philippe

    Hi Everyone,

    Could you please help me to find out weather the wrist watch below is authentic or not?
    Based on it's No. it's from between 1905-1910. (Patek Philippe Movements Number Dates And Calibers - Watchchrono Magazine)

    Your opinions would be much appreciated.

    Thanks & Regards

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    Member Eeeb's Avatar
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    Re: Help on Patek Philippe

    The bridging and dial style are consistent with the general timing but the casing appears much more modern than the rest of the watch. I fear this is the product of the eBay Ukranians. If so, all is in doubt.
    "Forever is composed of nows." - Emily Dickinson

    "The watch has to be surrounded by a history.
    You need more than just a great design. You need to create an atmosphere around the product.
    Who is the company behind it? Why are they using this material?
    People need to be able to identify the watch with themselves. It's based on emotion." - Ralph Furter

    ...that's just my opinion and I've been wrong before and will be again and might be now!

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    Vint. Forum Co-Moderator Mirius's Avatar
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    Re: Help on Patek Philippe

    Wrist watches were rare in that time period. The size alone tells us that this is a pocket watch conversion and as with Eeeb, the case is modern - conclusion = Ukraine and snake oil salesmanship.

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  5. #4
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    May 2012

    Re: Help on Patek Philippe

    Thanks guys for the info.
    I'm quite a noob here: the case or the movement is the 'valueble' part?
    If it was converted from a pocket watch than does it mean that it's not precious?

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    Member Marrick's Avatar
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    East Yorkshire, UK

    Re: Help on Patek Philippe

    Basically, it is neither an authentic vintage wristwatch nor an authentic pocket watch. Most collectors wouldn't want one of these. They are being produced - using various movements - because old PW movements are available quite cheaply (a lot of gold cases have been sold for scrap) and they are recased to become wristwatches. But they are big and bulky and don't look well on the wrist.
    Everybody is ignorant, only on different subjects."

    Will Rogers (1879 - 1935)

    Please don't PM me to ask for a valuation - I won't attempt one.

  7. #6
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    Mar 2006
    Wegberg, Germany

    Re: Help on Patek Philippe

    Hi Marrick,

    Quote Originally Posted by Marrick View Post
    Most collectors wouldn't want one of these.
    You're right, serious collectors won't touch such junk. But the Ukrainian butchers ar far from being idiots because they destroy even Patek Philippes. The prices payed for the tinker watches and the scrap value of the case together bring often more profit than selling the authentic pocket watch.

    Regards, Roland Ranfft

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