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    Help required! Is this crown original? (Polerouter)

    I'm considering this vintage Universal Geneve Polerouter.
    The crown isn't signed. It matches perfectly in color (to my judgement) and the seller says she thinks it is original.

    What do you guys think?



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    Re: Help required! Is this crown original? (Polerouter)

    Not original and not correct. Should have the "U" insignia.
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    Re: Help required! Is this crown original? (Polerouter)

    This is right


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    Re: Help required! Is this crown original? (Polerouter)

    Quote Originally Posted by badbackdan View Post
    Not original and not correct. Should have the "U" insignia.
    Thanks.
    What say you about the dial? It looks sharp but I've never seen this font on the Automatic and the lume markers are slightly smudged.


    Quote Originally Posted by bubba48 View Post
    This is right

    Thanks. What about the dial? The lume markers are kind of weird and that's an odd font used in the Automatic.

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    Re: Help required! Is this crown original? (Polerouter)

    Dial looks OK.

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    Re: Help required! Is this crown original? (Polerouter)

    Quote Originally Posted by Tony C. View Post
    Dial looks OK.
    Thanks Tony, I appreciate it.
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    Re: Help required! Is this crown original? (Polerouter)

    I respectfully disagree with Tony.

    The finish on the dial may be original, but that cursive font "Automatic" was used only by Longines-Wittnauer (and their client, LeCoultre) on watches imported to the USA. Universal was imported by a different company.

    The dots look very messy also. My opinion is that the dial is at least partially refinished.
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    Re: Help required! Is this crown original? (Polerouter)

    Quote Originally Posted by gatorcpa View Post
    I respectfully disagree with Tony.

    The finish on the dial may be original, but that cursive font "Automatic" was used only by Longines-Wittnauer (and their client, LeCoultre) on watches imported to the USA. Universal was imported by a different company.

    The dots look very messy also. My opinion is that the dial is at least partially refinished.
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    Would that be a deal-breaker for you?
    I paid under $400 shipped.

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    Re: Help required! Is this crown original? (Polerouter)

    Quote Originally Posted by Tiss0t View Post
    Would that be a deal-breaker for you?
    I paid under $400 shipped.
    Yes. If you are going to flip it, and think it's a redial, what would you say in the listing?

    Not much money to be made here.
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    Re: Help required! Is this crown original? (Polerouter)

    Quote Originally Posted by gatorcpa View Post
    Yes. If you are going to flip it, and think it's a redial, what would you say in the listing?

    Not much money to be made here.
    gatorcpa
    I'll say it might be partially refinished. I don't know for sure, you're the only one so far to think so (which is fine)
    Also, think about it, they all have the same simple font - why choose this one on the re-dial?

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