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    Re: Help with vintage Omega

    Quote Originally Posted by radger View Post
    No problem, I expected disagreement for my use of the term 'quick set'
    applied to the cal561.

    My only concern was to clarify the 561's quick setting mechanism
    compared to a non quick setting mechanism as applied to other watches
    where changing the date meant advancing the hands a full 24hrs.

    If it's not correct to call the cal561's quick setting mechanism quick set
    would 'fast set' be OK? What did Omega call it?

    As Nsmike pointed out, I think it is important to make a distinction or
    the uninitiated reading that their watch is not 'quick set' may miss out
    on the quick setting feature of the 561...which I agree is different from
    other quick setting mechanisms.

    I agree that distinctions need to be made between the different types
    of quick setting cals but to say that one cal is quick set whilst the 561 is
    not, is not strictly true.
    I think that most users would equate quickset with either the crown-push or crown twist with hands disconnected method for advancing the date. It's a stretch to call the 9:00/12:00 method quickset when one has to go from 1 to 31. I've heard it called wig-wag which at least describes the hand action.

    Circling back to the O.P., that is a really attractive pie-pan watch. Possibly Omega's best design.
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    Re: Help with vintage Omega

    Quote Originally Posted by John MS View Post
    I think that most users would equate quickset with either the crown-push or crown twist with hands disconnected method for advancing the date.
    True, but I would think 'most users' would be unfamiliar with the earlier
    systems in vintage watches, which were designed to speed up the process.
    At the time this watch was made, this was a faster superior system
    to many others.
    Omega owner manuals, which cover this type of 'quicker setting', describe it as a "Special device which makes this operation (changing the date)
    extremely easy".


    Quote Originally Posted by John MS View Post
    It's a stretch to call the 9:00/12:00 method quickset when one has to go from 1 to 31. I've heard it called wig-wag which at least describes the hand action.Circling back to the O.P., that is a really attractive pie-pan watch. Possibly Omega's best design.
    Could we safely call it 'fairly quick set' or 'moderately quick set'?

    I accept that it isn't as quick to set as a more modern watch but I
    believe that it should be differentiated from date watches which
    have no special mechanism at all to speed up the process.

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    Re: Help with vintage Omega

    Perhaps we can say the date has a, wig wag type quick advance, and avoid using quick set in describing it.

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    Re: Help with vintage Omega

    Quote Originally Posted by radger View Post
    True, but I would think 'most users' would be unfamiliar with the earlier
    systems in vintage watches, which were designed to speed up the process.
    At the time this watch was made, this was a faster superior system
    to many others.
    Omega owner manuals, which cover this type of 'quicker setting', describe it as a "Special device which makes this operation (changing the date)
    extremely easy".




    Could we safely call it 'fairly quick set' or 'moderately quick set'?

    I accept that it isn't as quick to set as a more modern watch but I
    believe that it should be differentiated from date watches which
    have no special mechanism at all to speed up the process.
    How about a wig-wag-not-slow-but-not-quick date setting mechanism?

    I agree the old armstrong date setting method was a pain and the newer method must have been seen as a big improvement back then. Although one could speed the process with a 3/8" electric drill...
    Last edited by John MS; October 6th, 2010 at 23:32.

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    Re: Help with vintage Omega

    Agree that distinctions need to be made between manual and quick-setting.

    The usual distinction is that quick-set is a system of advancing the date without having to move the hands. So other systems that require hand movement are usually called 'manual setting'.

    Wig-wag is as good as any...and I've heard others, such as "advance-retard setting" and even "manual quick date setting" rather than the "quick-set" which is a generally accepted term, as I say, for date setting without moving the hands.

    Cheers

    Desmond

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    Thank you for that clarification Desmond.

    I like that term "manual quick date setting" and will remember to
    use it in future.

    That is a great site you have produced and is a boon for the constellation owner.
    The best on the internet, without a doubt. I've used it many times...thank you.

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    Re: Help with vintage Omega

    Thanks Radger

    Womnderful thing these forums - great to get some concensus :)

    Regards

    desmond

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    Well, I'm a dog person so I like wig-wag better.

    Wait, what was this thread about?

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