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    HELP! Vintage ROSE HEUER one of a kind? signed?

    My parents have had this watch for over 20 years and we know its worth alot, But can not find ANY info on it ANYWHERE! My camera is not a good one, so i will tell you what the watch says in each place. The watch is rolled gold or solid gold.


    Front(by the hands etc): "THE ROSE"


    I can open the back which has 2 hinges. the inside of the back has engravings, a logo, a 7 digit number, and what seems to be a had carved signiture with 3 numbers following:


    ROSE
    watch company
    NEW(an engraved rose)YORK
    Warranted
    25 years
    2828677
    the hand written engraving says either EDR(then cursive) OR ECK(then cursive) I may be wrong , but it starts with an "E"
    right after the signiture or word, it has the number"681" which is also hand carved.




    The inside of the watch (where all the parts are) says:
    ROSE W.Co
    15 JLS
    3 ADJ
    SWISS MADE


    Then it has:


    A R
    F S


    with a row of small boxes underneath and 2 vertical lines in between.


    Please help me with whatever knowledge you can! I have been told by a collector to contact the british museum of horology and they can help, but i am too lazy. I would like to find out the info on this watch so i can sell it as i am not a collector, But dont know where to begin with pricing, info etc...


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    Re: HELP! Vintage ROSE HEUER one of a kind? signed?

    Hi and welcome
    why you think this watch is worth a lot?
    Where does it say HEUER?
    If its gold it will have hall mark , probably swiss.

    I doubt, sorry to say its worth very much
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    Re: HELP! Vintage ROSE HEUER one of a kind? signed?

    I did massive research and found that the rose watch company of new york was owned by heuer from 1912 to 1922 i believe.

    Here are some for sale on EBAY, but none are the same model.

    http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_trks...at=0&_from=R40
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    Re: HELP! Vintage ROSE HEUER one of a kind? signed?

    I would have to do some research on this but the Heuer Roses were generally mundane middle level market Swiss watches typical of their era (the 20s as I remember it). Their value comes mostly for historical purposes for Heuer collectors. That allows them to stand out a bit.

    The OP's piece may be such a watch. If it is to be sold, it will go for next to nothing unless the problem of fuzzy pics is solved. To that, use a camera with a MACRO function (for closeups) or take pictures through a loupe or magnifying glass.

    Even with good pics, ladies watches of this era are not generally lucrative products for sellers. Personally, the heirloom factor would be higher. I'd see if any of the ladies in the family want it. If so, get it serviced and use it as a Christmas/Birthday/Valentine Day present.
    "Forever is composed of nows." - Emily Dickinson

    "The watch has to be surrounded by a history.
    You need more than just a great design. You need to create an atmosphere around the product.
    Who is the company behind it? Why are they using this material?
    People need to be able to identify the watch with themselves. It's based on emotion." - Ralph Furter

    ...that's just my opinion and I've been wrong before and will be again and might be now!

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    Re: HELP! Vintage ROSE HEUER one of a kind? signed?

    Quote Originally Posted by HOROLOGIST007 View Post
    If its gold it will have hall mark , probably swiss.
    The case says warranted, so it's plated.


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    Re: HELP! Vintage ROSE HEUER one of a kind? signed?

    Well the OP was right (my bad) abour The Rose Watch Co and Heuer.
    It was a company name of Heuer and was listed 1916, the first adverts were for chronographs with fly-back seconds, and wrist chronographs - surely nothing like the OP posted?
    in 1924 The Rose Watch co was imported by Henry Freund, New York - but again seemed to me timepieces with ultra complications

    Its strang that the watch posted by the OP, seems NOT to git in at all with these HEUER grand chronographs and timers

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    Re: HELP! Vintage ROSE HEUER one of a kind? signed?

    Quote Originally Posted by Mirius View Post
    The case says warranted, so it's plated.
    Correct
    So a very basic ladies rolled gold converted pendant watch
    Strange Rose Watch Company??
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    Re: HELP! Vintage ROSE HEUER one of a kind? signed?

    Quote Originally Posted by HOROLOGIST007 View Post
    So a very basic ladies rolled gold converted pendant watch
    Strange Rose Watch Company??
    15 jewels and 3 adjustments speaks to me of a later ladies wristwatch, perhaps post Heuer (I never can keep in mind the dates for the US Customs changes). There may be one redeeming factor, or it might just be a crack/ flaw - is it centre seconds?


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    Re: HELP! Vintage ROSE HEUER one of a kind? signed?

    Quote Originally Posted by HOROLOGIST007 View Post
    Well the OP was right (my bad) abour The Rose Watch Co and Heuer.
    It was a company name of Heuer and was listed 1916, the first adverts were for chronographs with fly-back seconds, and wrist chronographs - surely nothing like the OP posted?
    in 1924 The Rose Watch co was imported by Henry Freund, New York - but again seemed to me timepieces with ultra complications

    Its strang that the watch posted by the OP, seems NOT to git in at all with these HEUER grand chronographs and timers

    ACKNOWLEDGEMENT
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    Most of the Roses from Heuer that I have seen lacked any complications. But that is just from memory, not from research.
    "Forever is composed of nows." - Emily Dickinson

    "The watch has to be surrounded by a history.
    You need more than just a great design. You need to create an atmosphere around the product.
    Who is the company behind it? Why are they using this material?
    People need to be able to identify the watch with themselves. It's based on emotion." - Ralph Furter

    ...that's just my opinion and I've been wrong before and will be again and might be now!

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