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    Re: How to remove the back of this elgin pocket watch converstion

    Quote Originally Posted by dotdotdot View Post
    The seller knew very little about the watch. He never had the back off, so he didn't have any photos of the movement unfortunately. I'm a little upset with the seller but that's besides the point. I really just want to see the movement.

    I am going to buy one of those rubber jar openers today to see if that helps.

    If it's a snap on there should be a little slot or opening along the gap correct?

    thanks guys!
    Well its not the sellers fault, as you could of asked prior to buying.
    Do you mind PM me a link to sellers site?

    The rubber ball will work if its a screw (anticlockwise).
    Not always a gap/cut out. Then you just have to have the knack of confidence of using a watch case opener knife.
    After the first 500 you get some confidence

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    Re: How to remove the back of this elgin pocket watch converstion

    I would be very surprised if the case is not a screw back.

    Try holding flat on your index fingers and "massaging" the back with your thumbs. The key with a tight screw back case is to only apply DOWNWARD pressure to get a good grip on it-grabbing at the sides will tend to squeeze the back slightly out of round at least for as long as you're holding it, making the back nearly impossible to remove.
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    Re: How to remove the back of this elgin pocket watch converstion

    Quote Originally Posted by HOROLOGIST007 View Post
    Well its not the sellers fault, as you could of asked prior to buying.
    Do you mind PM me a link to sellers site?

    The rubber ball will work if its a screw (anticlockwise).
    Not always a gap/cut out. Then you just have to have the knack of confidence of using a watch case opener knife.
    After the first 500 you get some confidence

    Regards

    Well that's not why I'm upset with the seller. It was a hassle to get any information out of him for this watch but I really liked the dial design so eventually I just bought it.
    I asked several times about the movement with no answers.

    But anyway, how would I know if it was a pry open or a tight screwback? If it's just a tight screwback I know that I definitely won't have the confidence to try prying stuff into it...

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    Re: How to remove the back of this elgin pocket watch converstion

    Quote Originally Posted by Ben_hutcherson View Post
    I would be very surprised if the case is not a screw back.

    Try holding flat on your index fingers and "massaging" the back with your thumbs. The key with a tight screw back case is to only apply DOWNWARD pressure to get a good grip on it-grabbing at the sides will tend to squeeze the back slightly out of round at least for as long as you're holding it, making the back nearly impossible to remove.

    Good tip! I will try that

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    Re: How to remove the back of this elgin pocket watch converstion

    Use hot melt glue to glue on great big nut then use a wrench to remove the case back. All traces of hot glue can be removed with heat, the when cold, alcohol. I've had great success with this and it removes the risk of damage due to slipping with tools.

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    Re: How to remove the back of this elgin pocket watch converstion

    Quote Originally Posted by stevenkelby View Post
    Use hot melt glue to glue on great big nut then use a wrench to remove the case back. All traces of hot glue can be removed with heat, the when cold, alcohol. I've had great success with this and it removes the risk of damage due to slipping with tools.

    I would be super nervous to do that I think...

    The suspense is killing me! I cannot get into this case..

    Is it possible that I have to remove the crystal side first and then do something?
    I just don't know

    Would one of those suction watch tools work or is that for something else?
    Last edited by dotdotdot; July 2nd, 2013 at 23:43.

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    Re: How to remove the back of this elgin pocket watch converstion

    When I get to this level of desperation, I just take the watch to my watchmaker. In about 5 minutes it is open. When I was visiting him last I saw him open up a Bulova which was green with corrosion and which probably had not been opened in 60 years. I was amazed. Normal business for him.
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    Re: How to remove the back of this elgin pocket watch converstion

    Quote Originally Posted by Eeeb View Post
    When I get to this level of desperation, I just take the watch to my watchmaker. In about 5 minutes it is open. When I was visiting him last I saw him open up a Bulova which was green with corrosion and which probably had not been opened in 60 years. I was amazed. Normal business for him.
    Ya, I might do that.
    Would he open it for free do you think?
    I don't really want to put any more money into this watch yet

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    Re: How to remove the back of this elgin pocket watch converstion

    Quote Originally Posted by dotdotdot View Post
    Ya, I might do that.
    Would he open it for free do you think?
    I don't really want to put any more money into this watch yet
    Mine would... but I am a regular. So regular I get 'trade rates'. Your mileage may vary.
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    ...that's just my opinion and I've been wrong before and will be again and might be now!

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    Re: How to remove the back of this elgin pocket watch converstion

    Quote Originally Posted by Eeeb View Post
    Mine would... but I am a regular. So regular I get 'trade rates'. Your mileage may vary.
    There has to be a way for me to open this...

    The problem is when I try to spin the back the front comes unspun...it's almost impossible to get a good grip.

    Also, the crown seems to almost go over the gap in the back, like it could be blocking it. I don't know.

    Sorry to be pain about this guys

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