The most recent culprit is Hanover I keep getting places. New Hamsure is a popular one. The worst is when I search a watch in a search engine and a post comes up from here of me asking about the watch. Ebay can be quite helpful at times. I digress I am looking at watches on Ebay and Hanover has nice designs and nice features but they refuse to post movement pics. That may be they are worried about damaging the watch but as is said here "cant help without pics". Anything on Hanover or your own hard to search watch.