I was just curious to see under the bell of one of these ;)
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    I was just curious to see under the bell of one of these ;)

    So thought I'd share this not so common alarm PW with you,............ now starts the search for the movement/watch maker, quite a few choices with this one, & the search continues ;)
    I saw this sort of hand setter on a E. Blancpain & Fils. pocket watch somewhere. come to think of it, there was a little pin sticking out of the edge of that balance wheel too.
    Can't see any Moritz Kohn makers marks :(
    Time for some more reading & learning :)

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    Re: I was just curious to see under the bell of one of these ;)

    Cool.

    This (4th one down) looks like it might be related - PocketWatch - Verkauf Taschenuhren
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    Re: I was just curious to see under the bell of one of these ;)

    Quote Originally Posted by RTB View Post
    come to think of it, there was a little pin sticking out of the edge of that balance wheel too.
    That is normally the sign of a cylinder escapement (but perhaps also used elsewhere) Acts to ensure the balance wheel doesn't go round too far on each cycle.
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    Re: I was just curious to see under the bell of one of these ;)

    Thank-you both for the interest.

    Marrick.....It was exactly one of those once before someone did a pretty good job trying to rescue it, they put a fair bit of work into the re-dial & lumed hands, but I'm hoping to get a replica dial same as in your link made & match up the hands to those too ;) I've only seen two photos(until now ;) on the web of these.

    I'm back to the German angle at the moment because of the 'R' on the crown for alarm, Unicum translates into unique, & now there looks like a miss stamp of a 'D' on the plate (maybe Deutschland) There's a '2' as well but no other marks visible anywhere else.

    The slightest touch & this movement just keeps ticking :)



    Mirius.......:) now i see the stop pin 180 degrees opposite on the pillar, thanks for the learning ;)

    Here's some more photo's as I had a bit of time thanks to the rain.

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    Re: I was just curious to see under the bell of one of these ;)

    I think I've found it gentlemen :) ........the hunch may have turned out well after all ;)

    I'm hoping one of you is better at working Espacenet database than I, & can get an English version of the original documents on here some how for us all to read. I'll keep trying but for now this is the best I can do. Brevet CH16675 (A).
    I'm still looking to see if there's any more brevets etc. as this is more for a alarm clock set-up.

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    Re: I was just curious to see under the bell of one of these ;)

    Finally Got a little spare puzzle time to myself last night to clean & inspect, 3 outta 4 jewels chipped/cracked so guess I'll have to up my skills a few levels, & tools ;). I've left the bumps/marks etc. as polishing them out will also remove the engine turning/lathe marks & I like to see the hands on beginnings of these older PWs, they may not be as pretty as some, but I like to see how it all started ;)
    Just a clean & most of the dial side screw heads de burred, will do all the others later when I re-blue them all & fit the dial/hand etc.
    & back together safe for now until I get time to revisit this project & finish it, I don't like leaving them in pieces for months just in case ;)
    Thought I'd share again :) Projects on hold for a few months now while I get a replica dail made, fingers crossed all the measuring pays off :)
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    Re: I was just curious to see under the bell of one of these ;)

    Outstanding thread.
    Great work and most interesting
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    Re: I was just curious to see under the bell of one of these ;)

    Thanks all for your positive reactions & interest, I'm happy others enjoy these old mysteries as well. :)

    I've finally sort of got the translation too...............guess that explains the '2' stamp as well,.... part ID & placement, most Swiss makers used letters ;)
    I'm thinking it's one of his design variations even more now. I'll update the input when the project goes forward again later.
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    Re: I was just curious to see under the bell of one of these ;)

    very cool.
    Kudos to you
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