Have a nice day,
I need help identifying this watch. My grandpa had them, but they are not in good condition, rather the opposite. On watch is a "ARFS" and on the back cover is a hallmark of .585 and 14K.
I tried to identify them according to this site, but I cant find bidfun-db Archiv: Uhrwerke: Junghans J9 same mechanism. I looked all Alpina and Junghans.
They look a little like this: https://forums.watchuseek.com/f11/loo...cs-131550.html
What kind of watch is it? And what may be the price, if any? They are full gold or just gold plated?
Thank you for your answer :)