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    Re: I would like help dating this Chrono.

    The T stands for Tritium (3H)... it was bound into a solid compound and placed in with another compound (a zinc-sulfur something) that scintillates (gives off light) when struck by the beta particle is given off by the decaying 3H.

    3H has a half life of about 25 years and the zinc-sulfur compound tended to separate from the other elements of the paint... combined these mean these tritium paints no longer glow much at all today.

    But when first made, they were glowing!!
    "Forever is composed of nows." - Emily Dickinson

    "The watch has to be surrounded by a history.
    You need more than just a great design. You need to create an atmosphere around the product.
    Who is the company behind it? Why are they using this material?
    People need to be able to identify the watch with themselves. It's based on emotion." - Ralph Furter

    ...that's just my opinion and I've been wrong before and will be again and might be now!

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    Re: I would like help dating this Chrono.

    Not all Hamiltons are Swiss made now. They have sold a number that were made in Asia. However these have not been marked 'Swiss".
    Since the brand is owned by Swatch , there won't be any "Swiss" makings on anything that's not Swiss made.

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    Re: I would like help dating this Chrono.

    Hi,all.....I've just now had time to get back...
    I need to make a correction,to my original post..
    I see many have commented on the ( T Swiss T ) .......
    For clarification... I have made and error.
    My original viewing of the word Swiss... was without magnification.
    Actually there is just the word "Swiss" at the 6 O'clock position.....
    The small index markers of the Tachy... was what I saw thinking it was T's on either side of Swiss.......
    So there is no T Swiss T printed at 6 O'clock.........
    Just the word "Swiss" ...........
    I'm terribly sorry for my goof up...
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    Re: I would like help dating this Chrono.

    No one has commented.....on the sweep second hand.....
    I thought this to be unusual,as far as what I've seen..
    I'm no watchmaker,with years of experience seeing different dials pass before me...
    However,this finish applied to a sweep second hand hand to take a deal of extra expense..and reason to be added....
    Not that this would be of any worth as far as promoting sales,but it's different.
    The sweep second chrono hand is finished as "blued" .... along with the two other small chrono hr,and min,complications.
    The chrono sweep second however,has the tip,in a gold finish...
    Blued,with a gold tip.... Unusual.......
    There had to nearly for sure,be a run on producing blued hands that were being given this gold tipped treatment....
    Probably in other style,and or name watches.... I have yet to have ever seen one though..
    As stated however .... my experience with viewing watch dials,especially those that are more than 15 years old,is very limited.......
    I will be asking my watch maker,about his experience of ever seeing this application before..
    I would think.....that the blued hands with applied gold tips,would sooner be an idea applied to pocket watches,and added to this one....
    Sense it's quite common to see pocket watches with blued hands....
    Just a thought.....
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    Re: I would like help dating this Chrono.

    No, you frequently see chronographs with different style hands for the time and for the stop time. On yours, all the time hands are gold, the chronograph hands are dark (even though the chrono second also has a golden tip). It is a particularly modern feature that has spread widely in recent years which once again underlines that your watch is post-quartz-crisis (i.e. late eighties or in the nineties).

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    Re: I would like help dating this Chrono.

    Thanks...great info.......
    I'm not,nor wasn't trying to satisfy some thought that I had and older chrono..
    I liked the dial color (verses) black,and have just been trying to get a handle on the age of the piece.....

    I am posting a photo of... my dream..... piece..
    It's nothing way out of the ordinary....
    However the dial and hand color arraignment,has me drooling for one.
    One photo is of one that sold on ebay about two years ago.
    It fetched $1,300 if I remember correctly.
    It's been about three years sense I first saw one (discontinued) late 80's.
    I lust ..... almost. I can't afford it.....
    From ebay.... to sale stores,on the internet,both in the U.S. and other countries.
    I've yet to see one for less than $1,200.
    Most going for 12 to 15 hundred.
    I really like it though....
    It was never shipped to the U.S. for sale.....
    These were shipped to,sold on the Japanese market only.
    They were intended,as Japan sales,which at the time,Japan was booming with a hay day of high tech,money makers,and spenders.
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    Re: I would like help dating this Chrono.

    Yes, that is a truly beautyful Omega!!
    Looks great with the red hands. Japan only you say. That is just not fair, we deserve a beauty like that too!

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    Re: I would like help dating this Chrono.

    hey..... check this out...
    It just came up on ebay,ends in 5 days
    It's the Omega I was yakking about .. 3513.33
    Selling from Irvine Ca.
    http://cgi.ebay.com/8-1716-OMEGA-Spe...d=p3286.c0.m14
    I did bid on one .... about a year ago...
    It was the last 24 hrs,price was at $850. I bid $950.
    15 hrs later,it sold for $1,225 ........
    I even sent a mesg to a buyer,stating I would give him,what he paid,if he didn't like the watch,he got it for $1,150..... I never received a reply.
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    Re: I would like help dating this Chrono.

    Quote Originally Posted by hamx15 View Post
    No one has commented.....on the sweep second hand.....
    I thought this to be unusual,as far as what I've seen..
    I'm no watchmaker,with years of experience seeing different dials pass before me...
    However,this finish applied to a sweep second hand hand to take a deal of extra expense..and reason to be added....
    Not that this would be of any worth as far as promoting sales,but it's different.
    The sweep second chrono hand is finished as "blued" .... along with the two other small chrono hr,and min,complications.
    The chrono sweep second however,has the tip,in a gold finish...
    Blued,with a gold tip.... Unusual.......
    There had to nearly for sure,be a run on producing blued hands that were being given this gold tipped treatment....
    Probably in other style,and or name watches.... I have yet to have ever seen one though..
    As stated however .... my experience with viewing watch dials,especially those that are more than 15 years old,is very limited.......
    I will be asking my watch maker,about his experience of ever seeing this application before..
    I would think.....that the blued hands with applied gold tips,would sooner be an idea applied to pocket watches,and added to this one....
    Sense it's quite common to see pocket watches with blued hands....
    Just a thought.....
    That is not a sweep second hand. It is the chrono's second hand. the dial at 9:00 is a subsecond dial.

    Your posts are difficult to read without breaking into paragraphs. Responses would improve with a better presentation.
    "Forever is composed of nows." - Emily Dickinson

    "The watch has to be surrounded by a history.
    You need more than just a great design. You need to create an atmosphere around the product.
    Who is the company behind it? Why are they using this material?
    People need to be able to identify the watch with themselves. It's based on emotion." - Ralph Furter

    ...that's just my opinion and I've been wrong before and will be again and might be now!

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