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    ID of vintage Bulova please

    Hi all,

    I cannot identify the model name of this Bulova I've had for several years.
    I haven't seen a coin bezel like it.
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    Thanks in advance.

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    Re: ID of vintage Bulova please

    I forgot to mention, it has a 11afak movement in it.
    I don't think it's a Sea Clipper - I'm hoping someone more knowledgeable than myself can chime in..

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    Re: ID of vintage Bulova please

    Can you read the date code off of the back? Likely an M or N followed by a number. That'll narrow it down a lot.

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    Re: ID of vintage Bulova please

    Hi, thanks for your reply. The number is M0.
    All help is appreciated.

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    Re: ID of vintage Bulova please

    Sorry again! It's an 11AFAC movement stamped M3.
    Seems strange the movement and case are manufactured several years apart.

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    Re: ID of vintage Bulova please

    In that case, they may have ended up together many, many years after both were made. In other words: the whole watch may very well have been frankenised!

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    Re: ID of vintage Bulova please

    Quote Originally Posted by Hartmut Richter View Post
    In that case, they may have ended up together many, many years after both were made. In other words: the whole watch may very well have been frankenised!

    Hartmut Richter
    Well if it all came from the same manufacturer, it may be a marriage, but not a franken

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    Re: ID of vintage Bulova please

    In mass production, a gap of three years can occur... in theory. Cases from different production series are sometimes 2-3 years older than the movement. For instance, in Tissot. A 1938 movement in a 1935 case would be nothing strange. I've seen this happen, with the movement being perfectly correct for the model. Assuming that the calibre is correct, 1963 movement in a 1960 case would be justified by the precedent, on which I base my hypothesis.
    I don't know how about that happening in a Bulova, though. The disadvantage of my theory is, that although the manufacturing processes were most likely the same, it's still two different brands. If the model- whatever variant it is of whatever "name"- has the correct calibre, I guess that there isn't much of a way to prove it being a franken- or, as pointed out earlier, a marriage watch. The case and movement might have ended up together in the Bulova factory, just as well as after leaving it. Without more evidence disproving either the "franken" theory, or the "mass production time gap" theory, I'd say it's a 50% chance for any of the two being correct. Well, I might be wrong- in that case, all Bulova-knowledgeable folks- feel free to enlighten me, since some more knowledge is always welcome!
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    Re: ID of vintage Bulova please

    Well if its ALL Bulova it can not be a franken.
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    Re: ID of vintage Bulova please

    Usually, I stick to the definition of a frankenwatch as a watch built of components of different watches. Simple definition- heard it somewhere, and ever since then I used to stick to it. I guess my confusion originates in the definition not specifying, whether these components come from watches of the same brand or not, in order for the piece to be called a franken. I did often wonder, whether the terms "marriage" and "franken" are synonymous- certainly I've heard them used in cases of watches being either made of components from one brand, as well as multiple brands. I guess that my confusion is also a result of seeing these terms applied in both cases- just to make it clear, I do not justify their incorrect application.
    Thanks ever so much for clarifying the terms.
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