Identify German trench watch with special movement
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    Identify German trench watch with special movement

    Hi everyone! I'm new here, found this website because I am extremely puzzled by my newly bought watch.

    I recently bought a vintage trench watch for 2 euros and I can't seem to find any information about it, apart from it (most likely) being an early trench watch.
    The movement is something I've never seen before and the sentence "Made in Germany" is engraved in it, along with what looks like beautiful leaves.
    The watch doesn't work as is but I love it!

    I hope someone can help me. Many thanks in advance :) For high quality photos, I also posted a thread on reddit and I uploaded an album with full-sized photos: German trench watch - Album on Imgur

    P.S. I posted this in German watches and not in Vintage watches, because it states that it has been made in Germany. This is my first post here so I don't know if I can post it in the Vintage watches forum too?

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    Re: Identify German trench watch with special movement

    Hello, and welcome to watchuseek.

    I don't know that your watch is a "trench watch", but it looks early.

    I expect the movement will be most interesting. What is the diameter
    of the movement? Can you provide a second source of illumination to
    show the escapement? Maybe move back a little bit to allow the
    camera to get a sharp focus.

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    One post is enough. In this case I think there will be more response
    in the vintage watch forum. I will move this thread there.


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    Re: Identify German trench watch with special movement

    Not an exact match but in principle, this Thiel movement is rather similar (open centre, one plate for everything - balance, geartrain, mainspring - rather than a whole load of cocks and bridges):

    bidfun-db Archiv: Uhrwerke: Thiel Darling

    ...and Thiel was indeed German (located in Ruhla, Thüringen, former East Germany).

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    Re: Identify German trench watch with special movement

    Hi and welcome
    Never a 'trench' watch, but a nice piece
    I believe it is a ladies pocket watch with lugs added to wear as a wristwatch, and most likely a lady.

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    Re: Identify German trench watch with special movement

    I really like the way this movement has been made, and the inside of the base plate appears to have been engraved, very unusual.
    It looks quite large, around 34-36 mm. and possibly made for a woman to wear as Adam says.
    Well worth a service, get it running and please show us the results!

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    Re: Identify German trench watch with special movement

    Thanks a lot for your responses! It's indeed quite big: 35mm excluding lugs or the crown. It also kind of looks like a ladies' converted pocket watch I have, especially the back but that one's smaller, with roman numerals, rosé gold plated and has a German gold plated wristband that clamps around the watch (and also soldered on lugs, not as neat as on this one).

    Hartmut, unfortunately the link you provided doesn't work when I click on it.

    When I come home today I will take more clear pictures of the movement! :)

    Bobbee: I like the engravings too, but is it that unusual? At the time I unfortunately don't have the money to get it serviced and I have a bunch of other (early) watches too, so I think I will search for a watchmaker that can get all of them looked after and cleaned in a few months, that are worth the effort. I'm still pretty new to this all!
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    Re: Identify German trench watch with special movement

    The link doesn't work? Strange, it does for me.....

    If in doubt, try googling "Ranfft Thiel Darling" and you should get there. If you arrive at the German version of the page, click the Union Jack towards the top. Good luck!

    Hartmut Richter

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    Re: Identify German trench watch with special movement

    I just checked the link again and it worked. Weird! But I can see the similarities too. Since I didn't have time yesterday, I will try to provide more clear photos of the movement from above and from a greater distance.

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