An introduction, and my first vintage piece.

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    Picture An introduction, and my first vintage piece.

    Greetings.

    Normally I hang out in the japanese forums here, but I do have a taste for the old. Few things give me as much satisfaction as making something old and forgotten into something useful and appreciated.

    As a result, I have a bug for vintage watches, and for the first time, I've indulged it and got myself a 1968 king seiko. A year before my birthyear.

    Not only is it my first vintage piece, it's my first Seiko ever.

    It blew me away. I'm in awe of this piece. It's so well-cared for it must've been someone's treasure. I shall treat it with the respect it deserves.

    I thought I'd share it with the vintage group.

    I'll hang around, if y'all don't mind. In my future I see a hamilton pocket, maybe with a 992 and montgomery dial . And wrist hamiltons. And gruens. And Elgins. And old, old Bulovas. An evil illness, the love of old watches Still, a wonderful one. It's good to finally be able to indulge in it.




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    Re: An introduction, and my first vintage piece.

    Very nice and of course you'll get it serviced if it hasn't been recently. You don't want to mess up such a lovely piece.

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    Re: An introduction, and my first vintage piece.

    Quote Originally Posted by Ray MacDonald View Post
    Very nice and of course you'll get it serviced if it hasn't been recently. You don't want to mess up such a lovely piece.


    Thanks.

    I do plan on having a seiko specialist look it over, and at the very rock-bottom minimum it will get a new gasket and crown o-ring(s).

    But then, the dial could stand a gentle cleaning, and to get to that, you gotta get past the movement, so.. I'm just a little hesitant because it's spooky good, on the wrist it barely gains or loses. I'm getting rates now, but so far this one makes my other watches look bad. So if it's runnign well, then...

    I dropped a line to iww, waiting to hear back. I do want it looked at. If they'll take it, then I'll have them do a very light restoration.

    Other than IWW, which came up here lots on old seiko servicing, any seiko specialists?


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    Re: An introduction, and my first vintage piece.

    The dial is nearly perfect. I wouldn't touch it. Usually dial cleaning makes things worse. The watch is 40 years old and shouldn't look like it just came out of the factory anyway.
    It may be running fine but if you don't know when it's been serviced last you need to get it cleaned and oiled. A watch can keep perfect time while it's destroying its pivots and arbors due to running dry.
    And even if you get new gasket seals I'd never wear a 40 year old vintage watch anywhere near water. Save that for your Invicta beaters.

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    Re: An introduction, and my first vintage piece.

    Heh, no.. my watches don't see water. I treat any watch as non-water worthy. Regardless of what the case or face say. No, the gaskets and o-rings are Just In Case. You never know when something out of your control will dunk your pride and joy in something wet. It's happened.

    Alas, no Invictas in my "collection." I'm not much into that particular type of watch. I'm somewhat of a minimalist.

    I hear ya on the dial cleaning. It looks worse in photos than it does in reality. By "cleaning" I meant having a watchmaker take the surface debris or dust out, but not doing a thing more. I want the patina. It barely has any to speak of anyway. At least there's no water damage, I have seen too many photos of KS and GS with stained dials, no doubt due to owners putting them in water.

    My reluctance to service right off the bat will be reduced once I've established contact with a watchmaker or two. It's really that I am fully aware of what this watch is, and what Seiko was doing in making it. It's not a watch I would trust to someone who occasionally works on auto seikos, it's a watch I'd trust to someone who knows these really old, Japan-only movements.


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    Re: An introduction, and my first vintage piece.

    Well it's a good idea to find a competent watchmaker you can trust with all kinds of watches if you plan to collect vintage.
    Just about everything you buy will need service when you get it.

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    Re: An introduction, and my first vintage piece.

    Quote Originally Posted by tictoc View Post
    It's not a watch I would trust to someone who occasionally works on auto seikos, it's a watch I'd trust to someone who knows these really old, Japan-only movements.
    Don't worry there is nothing in there that can't be worked on by any watchmaker worth his salt.

    Those KS's are nice pieces I have the chronometer version.

    Here's my 1969 Grand Seiko 36000

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    Re: An introduction, and my first vintage piece.

    I too have a taste for the old and picked up this old Seiko Sea Lion Diashock. It will need some work, mostly the dial, but I think I could have it transformed into a really cool piece.




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    Re: An introduction, and my first vintage piece.

    Quote Originally Posted by Neil(UK) View Post
    Don't worry there is nothing in there that can't be worked on by any watchmaker worth his salt.

    Those KS's are nice pieces I have the chronometer version.

    Here's my 1969 Grand Seiko 36000
    That GS is really nice. Looks awesome. All original?

    Yeah, I know a good watchmaker should be able to work on anything.. still nice to know who the 'freaks' are for each given brand


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    Re: An introduction, and my first vintage piece.

    Quote Originally Posted by Gamecock View Post
    I too have a taste for the old and picked up this old Seiko Sea Lion Diashock. It will need some work, mostly the dial, but I think I could have it transformed into a really cool piece.
    Daini seiko FTW! (they built my king seiko)

    Oh man so that's a sea lion.. i like it! I really like it! I have a thing for straight or straight-ish lugs

    What do you mean 'transform?' I think it's already a cool piece

    Really. It's beautiful. Based on the pix, I wouldn't touch it for a while. That dial's OK for a watch this old. The only thing I'd do to it, and that's a personal preference, is re-lume it at its next service, and maybe have the dial gently brushed or blown.. but no refinishing or intensive cleaning.

    Is it running? It looks like a solid piece of work.

    C'mon folks, show off those old seikos.. the non-divers get little love elsewhere.. someone's gotta love the old watches from tokyo..


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